Then why is someone like Rodman not in when he has 5 les and was a dominant rebounder and defender?? Horry won't get in either.
Oh come on now Nique was one of most physically talented players of all time. He has a career scoring AVG of almost 25 PPG and scored almost 27,000 points, that puts him 9th all time. Ahead of the likes of Barkley, Ewing, Jerry West and Reggie Miller. He played on ty teams his whole career, but there is little doubt though he was a better player than Manu. Anyone who says otherwise is being wayyyyyy to much of a Manu fan. Nique not getting in on the first ballot was a pretty big disgrace and it shows that not everyone we think may be such a lock for induction.
Then why is someone like Rodman not in when he has 5 les and was a dominant rebounder and defender?? Horry won't get in either.
read again. "international accomplishments"
There was an article recently on ESPN.com discussing some of the greats that have yet to get in, this is a little bit of it.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=2394981
"Dennis Johnson, Guard
An all-around performer, D.J. played in six NBA Finals and was on the winning side in three of them. He was a five-time All-Star who was named to the All-Defensive first team six times (1979-83 and 1987)."
Bernard King, Forward
At his rapid-fire peak -- three scorching years in New York from 1983 through 1985 -- King was an irrepressible offensive force.
"There has not been a better post-up 6-6 or 6-7 player in the league than Bernard King," says Hubie Brown, who coached him in New York from 1983 to 1985.
Adrian Dantley, Forward
Dantley has been nominated four times but has never received the welcome call from Springfield.
He is one of the few basketball players in history to average 30 points a game for four straight seasons (1980-81 to 1983-84), and he led the league in scoring twice.
Artis Gilmore, Center
Gilmore is the greatest eligible center not in the Hall of Fame.
"I have no idea why he's not in," said Brown, who coached Gilmore with Kentucky, including in 1975, when the Colonels won the ABA championship. "He's the most dominant center in the history of the ABA. He dominated college basketball at Gardner-Webb Junior College, then at Jacksonville, and was the Most Valuable Player in the 1975 playoffs. In the playoffs, he posted overpowering statistics, averaging 24 points and 18 rebounds. He was All-ABA first team five years in a row.
His 16,330 rebounds are fourth all-time in pro ball, behind only Chamberlain, Russell and Abdul-Jabbar. He scored 24,041 points. The two totals combined are good enough for seventh place in history.
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Now i hope what most are saying about his international play is true getting him in because it is quite clear that a number of players, better than Manu are still waiting to get the call.
If it was only the NBA Hall Of Fame then Manu wouldn't make it. But again it's a Basketball Hall Of Fame and I see Manu making it based on his international accomplishments. His international resume is pretty impressive. He's won some kind of award/championship every year (including NBA). He was the leader of the first team that beat Team USA ever since they started using NBA players and led them to a gold medal which is pretty impressive.
I hope that carries as much weight as you say because when a guy who has 24,000 pts and 16,000 Reb is not in, it makes you wonder what the the exact criteria is for getting in?? Obviously there is not a set standard of rules and there is a degree of subjectivity to all of this.
You can rule out the fashion hall of fame
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Oops I had forgotten about Hakeem in a previous post. Got his citizenship right before that iirc. I left off Shaq too but you are forgetting Bird.
I think it is a good debate. I don't agree with what so many have said here that Manu is a lock to get in because of international success. Just look at that article i posted. You have some guys out there with all time great stats and guys with les that were damn fine players and they are not in the HOF. Guys who were better players then Manu. Clearly the HOF does not have one set criteria where if you meet it you are in. I can see a scenario where Manu does not even come close to getting in. You just never know how these things are going to go.
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