He's a HOF lock already based on achievement and nationality.
No this is not an overreaction to his current play i have thought about this for a while. What do you guys think?? He is 30 years old and seems to be coming into his full prime as a player. He has 3 rings and an olympic gold medal. Lets say he has another 4 or 5 years in him, playing at a similar level and wins lets say 1 more NBA le. I'm not talking first ballot induction here but do we think that would be enough to get him in eventually???
He's a HOF lock already based on achievement and nationality.
He's had the HOF locked up for about 2 years....because of his international origin and achievements.
Are you kidding me?!?
Name the following players whom have led their respective national team to a Gold Medal and have been apart of multiple NBA Championship teams?
I think it's safe to say Manu is the greatest international player the NBA has come across.
echo in here :P
I ask the question because if you wanted to build a case against him it would be that his stats are not in line with many other hall of fame inductees. I think it is a fair question to ask and Manu i feel is not at this point a lock to be in the HOF, although i hope i am wrong.
Based on his international play and his decent NBA career. Getting 3 rings helps, but there's a lot of guys with 3 rings or more that aren't in the HOF.
Depends on what you mean by "led" but:
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Pippen
Robinson
He's had a better than decent NBA career it has been pretty damn GOOD.
He's already in.
It's not the National Basketball Association Hall of Fame.
Just the Basketball Hall of Fame; thus, he's already in based on international and NBA achievements.
Name another player that has won at least an NBA ring, an Olympic Gold and a European Championship? There is none. He makes the Hall of Fame, no doubt because of his international accomplishments, but he definitely makes it in.
He was a ing core starter on all three of those.
a man with his resume and some of it coming from international games....
a lock
That's a pretty nice list to be apart of.
I don't think there are any but Toni Kukoc came pretty close...
IIRC he has 3 Euroleague Championships
3 NBA Championships
2 Olympic Silver Medals(in the era when it was impossible to beat the Dream Team)
A FIBA World Championship
A FIBA World Jr Championship
I don't see him making it to the HOF, do you??? That might be a test case against Manu getting in.
Yeah...I think he'll make the HOF.
There are completely different standards for International Players...he wasn't as good as Manu was though, and that is pretty obvious to anyone who has seen them play...so that might hurt him.
4 les in 6 years will vault SuperManu and the Spurs into indisputable territory IMO. Right now you still have the Laker squakers and their "thweepeet" etc along with Spurs/GNob never having repeated.
Key players in 4 of 6 is very rare.
4 in his 1st 6 years careerwise puts him only behind the 60s Celts i believe.
Interesting topic brought up here...
As someone who never saw Kukoc play until the '92 Olympics and his Bulls debut, I'd like to ask - at his peak, how good was Kukoc's game compared to Ginobili's?
is there really any question????
strange thread, to say the least.
He's made it on international + some domestic achievements. Hasn't won it from domestic alone, but he's in.
Question: When do announcers start referring to him as "future HOFer" like they do Duncan? I think he'd have to do something magnificent, like win a Finals MVP.
Manu will be in the HOF you can bank everything you own on it.
No bias or anything, from a basketball standpoint the HOF isn't the NBA HOF it's just basketball HOF and he's a shoe in.
Strange, you thinking it is a lock is strange. Dominique Wilkins, who was an offensive machine did not get in on the first ballot and you think Manu is a lock, he isn't.
Drazen Petrovic is in and Manu's resume is substantially more accomplished than Petro's was -- and Petrovic was an absolutely wonderful player.
I've been arguing for years that Manu is in and I don't see any reason why that has changed. He led the first non-American club to win the Olympic Gold in the Dream Team era; his teams have been consistently among the best in World Championships (2nd in 2002 and 4th in 2006); and there are those NBA les, plus a Euroleague le in 2001, an Italian League Championship in 2001 and the Italian Cup in 2001 and 2002.
But it's not just that his teams have been successful -- it's that he has the hardware to show that he's been a driving force of those successes: he's and he's twice been named to the All-Tournament team in those World Championship tournaments; he certainly would have been MVP of the Olympic tournament in 2004 (he was named such by a number of outlets); he was MVP of Euroleague in 2001. He's been an NBA All-Star.
Add to all of that the fact that he is undoubtedly the most accomplished basketball player from South America (Oscar Schmidt didn't do all that Manu has) and the odds of his induction seem incredibly high. He might not be named by the general committee, but he will undoubtedly be nominated by the international committee and I have no doubt that the nomination will end with a well-deserved enshrinement.
Well, he at least has three more postseasons and two more seasons with the Spurs, in addition to the Olympics this summer.
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