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    Believe.
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    The Lakers, Mavericks, Suns made their efforts to duplicate and to counter SA's "big three" but I think they failed.
    Technically, the Suns HAD a big three combination for the past 3 plus years(Nash,Marion,Stoudemire) until they traded for Shaq. Our trade wasn't to duplicate as we already had a 3 core nucleus. We just happened to have someone who was not happy with their role as the third option and felt they should garner more respect.

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    Formerly greenleo, and yes, I'm female greens's Avatar
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    I've always thought it should be The Big Four...I think I even had started a thread about it a while back...

    Bruce is really important to the Spurs. I don't think he gets enough credit for what he does on a nightly basis and especially in the Playoffs. He's the best perimeter defender in the league. He showed that in the Finals in 2007 against LeBron...and against Steve Nash in the playoffs too. Also, let's remember the 2005 championship, his defense on Richard Hamilton was key. And also the block vs Chauncey Billups right when it mattered, during clutch time.

    It's a shame he has not won the Defensive Player of the Year Award...

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    I'll do it.

    LeBron's average line in the Washington series
    - 27.7 pts, 8.5 rbs, 7.5 ast, 1.75 stls, .75 blk, 1.75 turnovers.
    - Percentages :8.5/20 (.425) FG, 1/3.75 (.267) 3P, .813 FT
    - Hollinger Game Score avg = 24.575

    LeBron's average line in the Nets series :
    - 24.6 pts, 7.33 rbs, 8.5 ast, 1.17 stls, .33 blk, 2.83 turnovers.
    - Percentages : 7.8/18.5 (.423) FG, 1.33/4.33 (.308) 3P, .754 FT
    - Hollinger Game Score avg = 19.97

    LeBron's average line in the Detroit series :
    - 25.6 pts, 9.17 rbs, 8.5 ast, 2.67 stls, .5 blk, 3.17 turnovers.
    - Percentages : 8.83/19.67 (.449) FG, .83/2.33 (.357) 3P, .741 FT
    - Hollinger Game Score avg = 22.92

    total of those 3 series BEFORE San Antonio :
    - 26.03 pts, 8.33 rbs, 8.17 ast, 1.86 stls, .53 blk, 2.58 turnovers.
    - Percentages : 8.38/19.39 (.432) FG, 1.39/3.47 (.311) 3P, .769 FT
    - Hollinger Game Score avg = 22.488



    LeBron's average line versus San Antonio :
    - 22 pts, 7 rbs, 6.75 ast, 1 stl, .5 blk, 5.75 turnovers.
    - Percentages : 8/22.5 (.356) FG, 1/5.5 (.182) 3P, .690 FT
    - Hollinger Game Score avg = 10.575

    In short, he was worse in every single statistical category : minus 4 points, 1.33 rbs and 1.42 ast from his playoffs average. All his percentages drop dramatically and his turnovers are more than doubled. His game score is less than half his playoffs average.

    That's Bruce Bowen's stats for you here sir

    (data taken from basketball-reference.com)
    Thanks! the numbers really proved my point.

    LEsson for the day :If you want to determine the effect of Bowen to the spurs all you have to do is to look at the other players stats NOT Bowen's own stats.

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