Manu snub... from greatest SG of all time ESPN

[Martin R]

And before you say it, NCAA Champion >>> European Champion when they played.

NCAA 2001/2 Champion >>>> than Kinder Bologna??? you have to be joking big time or never seen a Eurogame ever. You'd surprise how close are and were core Euro teams to an NBA avg team.

By the way, the fact that Manu has achieved his les playing in different teams (Spurs, Kinder, Argentina NT), makes my point even stronger.

So please, give me a brake. Reggie Miller over Manu?? oh come on.
I concede MJ but no way Bill Russell. Manu is going to be bigger than Billat the end of his career.

[Phantom]

I'm worried for Manu's health they way he crashes into people in the paint.

[timvp]

I concede MJ but no way Bill Russell. Manu is going to be bigger than Bill at the end of his career.

Wow. Just wow.

What time is service this week?

[Brutalis]

What a joke. ESPN does it again congrats.

[Martin R]

Wow. Just wow.

What time is service this week?

It's easy to speak sat on history.

[timvp]

It's easy to speak sat on history.

Saturday? Thanks.

[MB20]

It's truly an honor for Manu to be considered on that list. Congrats Manu!!!
Those guys on ESPN obviously voted based on NBA career only. Manu's international achievements mean nothing in this particular poll.
And to be named among all those great players, having played 2nd banana to Tim Duncan for 6 seasons, coming off the bench...wow, just wow.

[ShoogarBear]

NCAA 2001/2 Champion >>>> than Kinder Bologna??? you have to be joking big time or never seen a Eurogame ever. You'd surprise how close are and were core Euro teams to an NBA avg team.

I'm going to give you a break since English isn't your first language. Otherwise you would get flamed back into the stone age.

I said:

And before you say it, NCAA Champion >>> European Champion when they played.

That means 1956 for Russell and 1984 for Jordan. Because in both those years what amounted to a college all-star team kicked the assess of the Europeans.

So please, give me a brake. Reggie Miller over Manu?? oh come on.
I concede MJ but no way Bill Russell. Manu is going to be bigger than Billat the end of his career.

I take that back. You're a complete idiot.

[ShoogarBear]

[ShoogarBear]

Manu bigger than Russell.

[Killakobe81]

Manu is great but at this time not an all-timer ...

[mathbzh]

Manu bigger than Russel

Manu is great. In his best moments he worth any other SG, he is having a great season, his 2005 playoffs were amazing, his international career proves he is a winner. But seriously his NBA career is not that great.
He came in the league being almost in his prime and still have "only" 14/4/4 career stats... OK this is not only about stats but we are comparing him to the best SG ever.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Manu bigger than Russel

Manu is great. In his best moments he worth any other SG, he is having a great season, his 2005 playoffs were amazing, his international career proves he is a winner. But seriously his NBA career is not that great.
He came in the league being almost in his prime and still have "only" 14/4/4 career stats...

True his 14/4/4 stats look bad. But they're kind of irrelevant to his play.

I really don't think the Tim Duncan argument applies to Manu. Sometimes players are just great on their own.
It's that kind of circle logic that is annoying in Sports debates. It's the same kind of crap that was heaped on Timmy. "he can't win a championship without D-Rob" "he can't win without Tony and Manu" it's a lot of bull but that's how it goes.

Tim Duncan was one Horry clanker away from a depreciated legacy. Luckily, we won 2005, and it was set in stone. Now he's untouchable.

Manu right now shouldn't be considered among those other SG, but he has time to prove himself.
I think even some of Manu's own fans underestimate him, for fear of being "homerish" This guy has it to be an "all-time" player. He just needs more time. Just be grateful, Manu's contributions are a result of him trying to win for the team, and not the other way around by other NBA players who buy into the individual "glory/Hall of Fame" bull , and have it reversed.

Same thing with Timmy, he's as great as he is because he does what it takes to win. All his awards are just secondary to him.

[mathbzh]

True his 14/4/4 stats look bad. But they're kind of irrelevant to his play.

I really don't think the Tim Duncan argument applies to Manu. Sometimes players are just great on their own.
It's that kind of circle logic that is annoying in Sports debates. It's the same kind of crap that was heaped on Timmy. "he can't win a championship without D-Rob" "he can't win without Tony and Manu" it's a lot of bull but that's how it goes.

Tim Duncan was one Horry clanker away from a depreciated legacy. Luckily, we won 2005, and it was set in stone. Now he's untouchable.

Manu right now shouldn't be considered among those other SG, but he has time to prove himself.
I think even some of Manu's own fans underestimate him, for fear of being "homerish" This guy has it to be an "all-time" player. He just needs more time. Just be grateful, Manu's contributions are a result of him trying to win for the team, and not the other way around by other NBA players who buy into the individual "glory/Hall of Fame" bull , and have it reversed.

Same thing with Timmy, he's as great as he is because he does what it takes to win. All his awards are just secondary to him.

I agree with you. Should Manu play 2 or 3 more season like he is doing right now, he would be ranked much higher. But we should not be surprised if he is not yet ranked very high on that list.