Will a revote in Michigan and Florida happen?

[Wild Cobra]

Don't take my word for it, take the Florida Democratic Party Chair's word....the democrats tried to push the date back to a DNC acceptable date, but the GOP legislature laughed....

I'm not saying that part isn't true. I question your sincerity of the term "laugh" but that's it. They already voted for the January date, then wanted to change it? I can make a guess that the republican leadership felt "you guys ed with us long enough, why should we help you."

But...

Maybe there was no retribution. Consider this:

1) How many other issues were on the table?

2) How much time left before recess?

3) How much planning was already in play that would cost ANY more money to change the date? If so, who should pay for it?

3a) Were ballots already printed?

3b) Were voters pamphlets already printed and mailed?

3c) Were voting locations already starting to be staged?

If you can answer all those questions, I still have more. Any unanswered valid question, or if any answer that would cost more money or waste time allotted for other legislation and I will say the GOP was right to laugh.

As for the link. Why didn't you provide the right link:

HERE IS THE RIGHT LINK!

I have a few thoughts from what I heard:

Now if you listen to the exchange, it is funny... deserved laughter... The democrats are asking for the republicans to help keep the DNC from punishing them!

The democrats have to audacity to blame the republicans, then ask them to change the date? They expect help after pissing on the republicans?

They requested the January date, the republicans help them, then they blame the republicans and expect help?

Audio link:

Exchange on Florida house floor

[peewee's lovechild]

come on peewee, you know he's not the reason.

When the did I write that?

If you want to continue this as a serious discussion, we can.
But, if you want to bull . . . let's do that.

I'm up for it either way.

[peewee's lovechild]

Here's a tool for you to use to come up with your scenario Pee Wee

http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/

That's assuming that the revote in Michigan and Florida won't happen.

That article is dated 03/19/08, the article I posted was dated 03/20/08.

According to the AP and CNN, the DNC and Michigan have reached an agreement for a revote but Barack Obama is blocking it.

A revote is going to happen.
Whether you like it or not.

Then we can talk about delegates and what not.

And, if Hillary loses, she loses.
But, as I've already said many times, it's not over yet.

[peewee's lovechild]

It's not Obama's fault. It the fault of FL and MI for not playing by the DNC rules, which were intensively and clearly negotiated in 2007 and then broken by FL and MI.

Obama's afraid of nothing. He knows he's way ahead. His playing by rules, allied with the DNC, is quite a change from 7 years of dubya's law-ignoring "signing statements".

It's Hillary who is panicking, squirming, clawing and scratching, afraid her earlier inevitability is slipping through her hands. In fact, it's ova and Hillary should quit and help Obama and the party.

You know if the situation were reversed, Hillary would have at least the same position as Obama, while smearing and dirty-tricking to maintain it. There is a real difference between Obama and Hillary personally.

Republicans in Florida are to blame.
And, if you don't know about it . . . you don't need to be posting here anymore.

If Obama's not afraid of anything, why block a revote in Michigan?


As for the situation being reversed, you're damn right Hillary would take the same position as Obama. But, Obama would be doing the exact same thing Hillary is doing.

They're both politicians.

[peewee's lovechild]

...there you have it - straight from the horses mouth...

Hey idiot, that's Florida.
We're talking about Michigan.

Florida is a completely different monster.

[MannyIsGod]

That's assuming that the revote in Michigan and Florida won't happen.

That article is dated 03/19/08, the article I posted was dated 03/20/08.

According to the AP and CNN, the DNC and Michigan have reached an agreement for a revote but Barack Obama is blocking it.

A revote is going to happen.
Whether you like it or not.

Then we can talk about delegates and what not.

And, if Hillary loses, she loses.
But, as I've already said many times, it's not over yet.

Look dude, I'm not sure why I waste so much time on you but reread what I posted. I said "here is a tool for you to use". Did you even bother to look at what it was? The article is dated? That assumes? Uh, WTF?

It isn't an article. It is a link to a calculator. They update the top portion like a blog at times, but that is not the reason I sent you to the page. Use the calculator at the bottom with the remaining states to see what kind of margains Hilary needs to win each state by in order to close the gap in pledged delegates. Then once you are done with that and you have a delegate total, breakdown how she needs to win the remaining supers to win the nomination. I'm having to explain this to you time and time again and when I get you a damn calculator to use to do this you don't even bother reading the page and actually taking a look at it but you assume its some kind of article and spew the same bull you've spewed throughout this thread.

You work for a library? Then take the time to ing read what I link.

[MannyIsGod]

That's assuming that the revote in Michigan and Florida won't happen.

That article is dated 03/19/08, the article I posted was dated 03/20/08.

According to the AP and CNN, the DNC and Michigan have reached an agreement for a revote but Barack Obama is blocking it.

A revote is going to happen.
Whether you like it or not.

Then we can talk about delegates and what not.

And, if Hillary loses, she loses.
But, as I've already said many times, it's not over yet.

Also read your own articles content as well. It states when the deadline was. Michigan is about as dead as Florida. I dare you to blame this on Obama. Tell me its his fault. I dare you.

[peewee's lovechild]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...032003526.html

Washigton Post article that came out today.

The Michigan revote porposal is dead as of late yesterday.
Obama's campaign wanted an even split of delegates.

[MannyIsGod]

bump

[DarkReign]

You're not getting it.

The DNC and the state have already agreed on a revote.

Obama is blocking it.

This race is between himself and Hillary.
Those are the choices for the revote.

What's the problem here?

No they havent. The Michigan Senate has already stated "it isnt happening". The majority leader wont even allow the proposal to be voted on.

Its dead in Michigan, regardless of what either candidate wants at this point.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...CS01/803210386

[peewee's lovechild]

No they havent. The Michigan Senate has already stated "it isnt happening". The majority leader wont even allow the proposal to be voted on.

Its dead in Michigan, regardless of what either candidate wants at this point.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...CS01/803210386

Yea, I saw that.
It happened late yesterday.

[DarkReign]

Obama is the not blocking anything in Michigan.

Nor is Hillary. Maybe Hillary wants it more than Obama, I wouldnt argue that.

But it doesnt mean -all. Its dead in Michigan due to the Michigan Senate..

REPEAT

Dead in Michigan due to the Michigan Senate.