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DeSagana Diop = Bill Russell. Why can't he get off the bench in New Jersey?
Well spoken sir, and it is also why the Rockets are not a real threat this year either.
The Mavs just got a lot worse, their fans are just in denial.
DD
DeSagana Diop = Bill Russell. Why can't he get off the bench in New Jersey?
LOL - people who look at basketball in only an individual manner, as in how talented an individual player is...are missing the entire point.
It is how he fit into the team...and whether or not the Kidd trade made the team BETTER......
It did not.....as evidenced by their record.
Sometimes the sum of the parts trumps individual talent......
But, I am sure that Dampier is good enough.
ROFLMAO !!
DD
Hi da_suns_fan.
LOL - typical, losing the argument, and resort to name calling.......poor baby.
DD
You and da_suns_fans are basically the George W. Bush of Spurstalk - You declare victory, and just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it is. In fact, whatever you two say, one can safely assume the opposite.
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat
ROFLMAO....the Nate Robinson block, I concede...that one is awesome...
DD
Nobody is saying Diop is the next Bill Russell but that he was just valuable for the mavs and any team serious about winning a le which the Nets aren't. Diop doesn't fit one bit in the Nets playing style and you know that.
Diop is more valuable than Dampier, and what you said about his stamina ain't true because he had played big minutes for you guys, his foul trouble is what put him on the bench sometimes.
Diop on the right team can be a good player.
EXACTLY !!!!
And losing 2 rotational players, and both of them starters for one over the hill starter who is an amazing passer but can't shoot his way out of a wet paper back with a .50 caliber rifle was a mistake.
Pure and simple.
DD
Agreed. He is no Bill Russell but amazing how much better we are defensively with a defensive center. We can't stop anybody without it.
Of course they have a shot at both of those, but they are not contenders to come out of the Western conference anymore.
And THAT is an absolute statement FinDog.....
DD
Yeah a guy who played 15 minutes a game and was perpetually in Avery's doghouse is the difference between being a contender or not.
What ing dumbass logic.
The problem is Avery putting Dampier out on the perimeter against Kobe and expecting Jason Terry to guard Pau Gasol & Josh Howard to take Odom, while leaving Dirk as a help defender when both of those guys inevitably get beat.
The problem is Josh Howard losing his cool like a .
The problem is Devean George contributing exactly zero, and Eddie Jones deciding that passing to a guy looking the opposite direction is a good idea.
The problems of this team aren't solved ONE ING BIT by Diop or Harris. This team would be in the same situation with both of those guys still on the team.
Just find a new team to root for already.
One man deserve the blame for last night's loss - Avery. As always, when things get tight at the end, Avery abandons everything that has worked well and goes stupid.
How much of a downgrade has replacing Del Harris with Paul Westphal been?
I remember Westphal as a jump shooting wuss.
And it seems like the Mavs hotheads were better able to control themselves while Harris was there
I don't like the Mavs. I usually enjoy watching them go down in flames. With that said, even I was getting angry last night watching AJ take it in the ass down the stretch. I counted at least three times in the closing minutes (twice in the final sixty seconds, IIRC) that they trapped with Dampier out at the top of the three point line and the result was the same thing each time: Odom and Gasol get to make a poster out of Dirk. AJ failed to adjust so poorly that I actually felt sympathy for a team I hate. I'll never forgive him for that.
15 minutes is all we need as we get killed when we go small. Why is that such ing dumbass logic? It's ing dumb that you think Dirk can play the 5 for 15 minutes.
find me instances where the Mavs lost the game last night because of the backup center. Because they lost the game with Dampier in.
It doesn't matter who is backing up Dampier, the problem is still Avery.
Almost every time the lakers got an offensive rebound, it was when Dampier was out of the game. Just watch the third quarter and see how easy it was for the Lakers to get layups without Dampier. Dampier is a half of a center. We need the other half and that was Diop.
Mavs still had a healthy lead after the 3rd quarter. The problem was choking it away in the 4th quarter, and that was with a legitimate center in the game, and that was because of Avery.
I just don't understand morons who think a 15 minute a game backup center can possibly be the missing piece on a contender. Just ing re ed.
The problem is the coach and our idiotic SF who s up at the most inopportune time every chance he gets.
For now on, focus on how this team plays on defense with Dampier out of the game. Trust me, it is a layup drill the majority of the time. The key to beating the mavs is getting Dampier to guard the perimeter or force them to go small. They can't guard interior when this happens.
Now I'm not pulling a Mavsfan1000 and saying that Diop is the key to putting us over the top, but I was pissed when we gave him up in the Kidd deal. I thought it was too much to give for Kidd and he shouldn't have been included. I will say that we are much better with Diop as our starting center as opposed to Dampier.
Was Avery out there missing wide open jumpers and fumbling the ball away at the end?
While Avery may be part of the problem, the players ARE also part of the problem.
DD
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