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    Dallas can't guard the rim anymore now that Diop is gone. Seriously this is the worst interior defense in the league. They can't get any big stops as teams are having layup drills. We traded the wrong player. It should've been Bass.
    Last edited by mavsfan1000; 04-05-2008 at 12:58 AM.

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    I'm sorry I have to do this to a fellow Mavs fan:

    America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

    Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat

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    I'm sorry I have to do this to a fellow Mavs fan:

    America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

    Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat
    Fin, I really think this guy made a good point. In reality Bass gives us nothing but his midrange jumper, he can't rebound well, he can't defend well and his dunks usually get blocked. He may still improve though, only time will tell...

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    I'm sorry I have to do this to a fellow Mavs fan:

    America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

    Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat
    Dampier was too slow tonight. Diop is more active and needed against these quick teams like this. You can ignore it all you want but I have no confidence in getting big stops late in games with the team we have now.

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    Diop is a decent backup big, but you play 4 on 5 on offense with him out on the floor. He can't give you heavy minutes because he's never demonstrated he can handle it stamina and durability wise.

    Diop is not a valid reason to pass on acquiring Jason Kidd. This trade will pay more dividends next year, mark my words.

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    Fin, I really think this guy made a good point. In reality Bass gives us nothing but his midrange jumper, he can't rebound well, he can't defend well and his dunks usually get blocked. He may still improve though, only time will tell...
    Bass is a young player with promise. Diop is what he is, a guy you play 15 minutes a night and nothing else.

    Bass' defense sucks but he has a lot of upside and plenty of teams would kill to have him.

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    It's hard to guard the rim when your center is 50 feet from the basket guarding the best player in the league.

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    It's hard to guard the rim when your center is 50 feet from the basket guarding the best player in the league.
    Exactly. I like trapping Kobe, but not with Damp.

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    Fin, I really think this guy made a good point. In reality Bass gives us nothing but his midrange jumper, he can't rebound well, he can't defend well and his dunks usually get blocked. He may still improve though, only time will tell...
    That is more than Devean George. Bass is 5th in the league in 2 point jumpshot %

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    Keep in mind that given how hard it will be to resign him two years from now because of his early Bird rights, Bass can get you more in a trade than being filler for Jason Kidd.

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    Diop is a decent backup big, but you play 4 on 5 on offense with him out on the floor. He can't give you heavy minutes because he's never demonstrated he can handle it stamina and durability wise.

    Diop is not a valid reason to pass on acquiring Jason Kidd. This trade will pay more dividends next year, mark my words.
    Diop was the perfect fit for this team. The beauty is the offense still worked with him as we had plenty of shooters and Diop was able to get some nice dunks occassionally. Kidd will be 35 turning 36 next year so I don't see how that will pay off as he is getting older quick. This team has never had problems with offense. Maybe poor shots on occasion but every team will have problems there. We at least could defend when we had Diop out there. Amazing the difference is when we don't play a center. We get killed on the boards and can't protect the basket.

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    See, even you Mavs fans are starting to come around that the Kidd trade was a bad one overall.

    No more penetrating players to drive in and dish out......

    You don't screw with chemistry.....

    Even if the Mavs squeeze into the playoffs they are a one and done team.....

    Too bad, they WERE contenders until Mark Cuban got antsy.

    DD

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    If you're wondering why we couldn't guard the basket, Dirk on one leg couldn't stop Lamar Odom. Even with his gutsy effort, we were -19 with him on the floor.

    Diop is not Bill Russell.

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    See, even you Mavs fans are starting to come around that the Kidd trade was a bad one overall.
    Some Mavs fans. The Mavs did NOT get worse with this trade. They would be struggling if they hadn't made it.



    Even if the Mavs squeeze into the playoffs they are a one and done team.....

    Unless we play Houston.

    You don't screw with chemistry....
    On and off court chemistry was bad before the trade.

    Too bad, they WERE contenders until Mark Cuban got antsy.

    DD
    And we will be next year when we get a SG.

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    Findog,

    You may very well get a SG next year, but you guys were contenders THIS year pre trade.

    Bonzi Wells might be good for you guys, he is a low post playing SG....invert your offense and put him on the block.....

    You guys need a post player badly and a SG too.

    DD

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    See, even you Mavs fans are starting to come around that the Kidd trade was a bad one overall.

    No more penetrating players to drive in and dish out......

    You don't screw with chemistry.....

    Even if the Mavs squeeze into the playoffs they are a one and done team.....

    Too bad, they WERE contenders until Mark Cuban got antsy.

    DD
    I have to agree with this. Our missing piece is an athletic big that can shotblock and rebound and finish at the rim. Diop is pretty close to being that player. I guess Cuban and Avery don't realize how big that is.

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    Diop is a part of the problem, but not the missing piece.

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    Findog,

    You may very well get a SG next year, but you guys were contenders THIS year pre trade.

    Bonzi Wells might be good for you guys, he is a low post playing SG....invert your offense and put him on the block.....

    You guys need a post player badly and a SG too.

    DD
    The Mavs may have been "contenders," whatever that means, but they weren't winning a le. They're no worse than what they were.

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    If you're wondering why we couldn't guard the basket, Dirk on one leg couldn't stop Lamar Odom. Even with his gutsy effort, we were -19 with him on the floor.

    Diop is not Bill Russell.
    Yeah and an athletic big man can make up for some of defensive problems that other players are having individually. Once the player got passed his man, he knew that he wasn't going to rejected when he went to the hoop. That is our weakness now.

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    The Mavs may have been "contenders," whatever that means, but they weren't winning a le. They're no worse than what they were.
    See this is what I don't understand.

    As they were...they were in the finals and up 2-0 just 2 short years ago.......and then they followed it up by being the best team in the NBA the next year and ran into a hot team in the playoffs.

    Why on earth would you blow that team up?

    Mind boggling.

    DD

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    See this is what I don't understand.

    As they were...they were in the finals and up 2-0 just 2 short years ago.......and then they followed it up by being the best team in the NBA the next year and ran into a hot team in the playoffs.

    Why on earth would you blow that team up?

    Mind boggling.

    DD
    Because Dirk wanted it. That good enough for you?

    They went from losing in the Finals to out in the first round, and being far off their pace from last year. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This trade will pay more dividends next year, I can assure you of that.

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    Because Dirk wanted it. That good enough for you?

    They went from losing in the Finals to out in the first round, and being far off their pace from last year. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This trade will pay more dividends next year, I can assure you of that.
    Yeah, rely on some mythical acquisition rather than the players that won 67 games a year ago.

    Brilliant strategy.

    DD

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    You can't run as much if you don't get stops. I bet some of those blocks Diop would get could lead to fastbreak points. Well anyways my 2 cents on what I think is missing from this team. More than a 2 guard I think we need another great help defensive center, rebounder, and finisher.

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    Yeah, rely on some mythical acquisition rather than the players that won 67 games a year ago.

    Brilliant strategy.

    DD
    Don't listen to your franchise player.

    Brilliant strategy.

    What the did those 67 games get us last year? Why do you keep bringing it up? It's not a static league.

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    Franchise player?

    Dirk wanted it?

    LINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Or did you hear it from your grandma's cousins pet roaches sister?

    LOL

    DD

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