Gas Prices - what did I miss?

[scott]

The smaller vehicle will do more damage to roads since it travel farther on them.

What kind of logic is this?

The distance traveled in your car has no relationship to the size of your car.

A ten mile trip in a Hummer is the same distance as a 10 mile trip in a golf cart. Or maybe you are suggesting that people who own Civic's intentionally take the long way to work?

More milage, means more gas of course but there are other considerations.

Actually, more milage means less gas.

More maintenance is required of the smaller vehicle because of the higher milage. (Oil from oil changes, filters, brakes, air filters, and other consumables.)

No more maintenance is required. A small car needs its oil changed at the same frequency as a large one. Same with the filters, brakes, etc. Again, 10 miles = 10 miles, regardless of what you drive.

Traffic jams which cause even greater pollution and wear on roads increase because of longer commute.

Demographics show a trend towards people living further away from where the work (sprawl and suburbanization) and a trend toward larger vehicles. Traffic james aren't caused by smaller cars- they are caused by populations growing and people communiting further.

Smaller cars tend to have lower emissions than larger cars, so a traffic jam of Civics would cause less pollution than a traffic jam of Dodge Rams.

Now is that a waste for the person driving the Civic? Not if they feel it's justified. Is it a waste to take a larger vehicle a shorter distance? Not if the owner feels it's justified.

You went through a bunch of math comparing a short trip in a truck versus a long trip in a car- which proves... nothing? You would be saving money having a smaller car on your short trip.

Now, you can do whatever you want- if you want an SUV, be my guest. But quit comparing apples to oranges.

[Bandit2981]

I really don't think it is any of your business who drives what!

it becomes my business when i breathe the air that vehicles pollute...maybe you'll sing a different tune once you experience being behind a smoky ass car at a stoplight...and again, since you didnt comprehend what i wrote, i dont care what people want to drive, its not the vehicles themselves, its the amount of waste and pollution they put out that i want to see changed...get it now?

If we save just one life, it is worth it. Well,
my question is: how come we still have airbags, it has claimed how many
childrens lives? Oh-========that's different, Right?

this has to be considered the most idiotic post of the century. why should cops try to bust people for drinking and driving? i see drunks killing people all the time on the news. i guess those police serve no purpose eh?

[Useruser666]

What kind of logic is this?

The distance traveled in your car has no relationship to the size of your car.

A ten mile trip in a Hummer is the same distance as a 10 mile trip in a golf cart. Or maybe you are suggesting that people who own Civic's intentionally take the long way to work?

I NEVER said vehicle size has anything to do with length of trip. I gave an example of someone who drives a small car living far from work and a person who lives close to work and drives a larger vehicle. I was giving reasons why the more fuel efficient vehicle would do more harm to the environment than the larger less efficient vehicle based on their use.


Actually, more milage means less gas.

A vehicle that has a higher mpg rating that is driven farther than a lower mpg vehicle uses more gas. I showed all the math, so unless I calculated wrong you are mistaken.


No more maintenance is required. A small car needs its oil changed at the same frequency as a large one. Same with the filters, brakes, etc. Again, 10 miles = 10 miles, regardless of what you drive.

I was never comparing 10 miles to ten miles, that is where you oobviously misunderstood me. A vehicle no matter the model should have regular maintenance. The more miles you drive the shorter the interval between the required maintenance becomes. If you get your oil changed every 3,000 miles and you drive 9,000 miles a year you will get your oil changed 3 times. Correct? If you drive 18,000 miles, you will need 6 oil changes.


Demographics show a trend towards people living further away from where the work (sprawl and suburbanization) and a trend toward larger vehicles. Traffic james aren't caused by smaller cars- they are caused by populations growing and people communiting further.

What demographics? My whole point was that even if you drive a fuel efficient vehicle (Civic), if you don't utilize it correctly, you are just as guilty of waste as a person driving a large fuel inefficient vehicle.

Smaller cars tend to have lower emissions than larger cars, so a traffic jam of Civics would cause less pollution than a traffic jam of Dodge Rams.


That is a whole nother scenario that has nothing to do with my example.


You went through a bunch of math comparing a short trip in a truck versus a long trip in a car- which proves... nothing? You would be saving money having a smaller car on your short trip.

Jesus! Duh! The examples I gave were for two different people driving two different vehicles. If I want to use the capabilities of a pickup some of the time, should I be forced to buy a small car and then a truck?

Now, you can do whatever you want- if you want an SUV, be my guest. But quit comparing apples to oranges.

Sorry scott, but you were taking what I was saying way out of context.
Go back and reread what I wrote. The comparrison was not focused on the vehicles, but the lifestyle of the people driving them.

[sbsquared]

There have been some great posts in this thread, but I still haven't had an answer to the original question - why did gas jump so much in just one day? How can oil companies justify a 6% increase in one day - what happened that caused oil prices to jump so much so quickly?

But when all is said and done - they've got us - we need the gas and we'll pay the prices regardless. I know I try to drive much less since we've had much higher gas prices, but I still have to drive the same number of miles to work, church, etc.

[Useruser666]

There have been some great posts in this thread, but I still haven't had an answer to the original question - why did gas jump so much in just one day? How can oil companies justify a 6% increase in one day - what happened that caused oil prices to jump so much so quickly?

But when all is said and done - they've got us - we need the gas and we'll pay the prices regardless. I know I try to drive much less since we've had much higher gas prices, but I still have to drive the same number of miles to work, church, etc.

I think some recent violence in the region (Iraq) had something to do with the change. Oil companies will raise prices on speculation just to be safe, and then slowly lower them back down.

[MannyIsGod]

I think some recent violence in the region (Iraq) had something to do with the change. Oil companies will raise prices on speculation just to be safe, and then slowly lower them back down.

I don't think this is accurate, but I'm not sure.

I think it more than likely has to do with a blip in the supply. The prices are not as fickle as people think when compared to what is happening in that region, they are more adversly effected by situations like the hurricanes that damanged the actual infrastructure.

[Sec24Row7]

Well think about it this way guys...

The sooner the US uses up all the Fossil Fuels, the sooner the mass starvation happens, opening back up Billions of acres of occupied land to the natural inhabitants that once lived there.

Save the environment by using ALL the petroleum reserves.

Of course, I'm betting that many of you aren't quite as selfless as you proclaim.

[Opinionater]

IMHO, we may need to go back to steam engines.