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Malik = championship supposedly.
DAMN SPARKY(how much is he paying you) you are Maliks #1 fan.
Dont forget with business its "what have you done for me lately"
it just seems that rose doesnt have the character to get out of the current slump he is in. POP TRADE HIM PLZ.
Sparky you need to look at the big picture, malik is just 1 player not the team.
Malik = championship supposedly.
Malik could start on any other team. What would we do if signed with the Lakers...............
OMG............
Remember that .
Eating words mofos. eating words........ all of you.
Eating what? Spurs ownership is led by a cheap er who was prepared to give up Tony Parker. Open your eyes chumps.
and he stepped up and paid Parker.
Whats your point.
He also stepped up this offseason signing Brent Barry, and giving Ginobili a very good contract as well.
Once again, show us the cheapness.
Sure and now they are trying to move Lik and Rasho for expiring and/or small contracts.
Cheap.
Pop said they are not trying to trade Nesterovic.
So there goes your theory on that.
For one reason..........
They just don't fit in.
Malik and Rasho are the wrong pieces to the puzzle.
Figure it out.
Malik-DNP. Rasho, no 4th quarters.
Simple math.
Barry wasn't fitting in to the point that Devin "Who?" Brown had taken his spot.
The front office is cheap and relies on blind sheep homers like Sequ and TPark to keep the money flowing in.
Sparky, I fear you're wasting your time. It's obvious that what the Spurs really want to trade is Malik's contract because they clearly are not going to get equal talent in exchange if they do trade him (even if you consider Marshall equal talent, Toronto already said it's not happening). But some of these people are just never going to get that.
He got a start for one game against Portland, he got rolling, and is now fitting in.Barry wasn't fitting in to the point that Devin "Who?" Brown had taken his spot.
He started playing defense and poof, hes now playing more. THAT SIMPLE.
Malik on the other hand, started playing dumber and dumber, Horry played smarter and smarter.
Adios Malik.
But, its his contract he is playing bad.
riiiiggghhhttt.
Hes got a contract hovering over his head, ooooo booo hoooo wahhhh.
Cry me a in river.
I'm a big time spurs players lover (any player on our team is precious for me), i look for everything he did past years, I'll be willing to give him more opportunities, I guess that's why I won't do a good GM's job, or coaching job.
Malik is in a situation barry was this season, and even horry early in the season, what malik has to know, is that he'd rather wake up now,or dude's gone.
I understand what SPARKY is saying, but what he said is what dude used to do, not what he's doing.
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Last edited by san antonio spurs; 09-17-2011 at 10:17 AM.
[QUOTE]Toronto already said it's not happening[QUOTE]
I wouldn't totally discount it yet, but I agree, this trade seems dead in the water.
The market for bigs dictates to pay big bucks to guys PLAYING and CONTRIBUTING, Malik isn't doing that from some time ago...
Tell me...If I'm so wrong and Malik isn't overpaid.... why Malik was put in the Expansion Draft? and why the Bobcats (a new franchise with cap-room and need of reliable players) didn't take him? Did Spurs managers make a dumb move risking themselves to loosing Malik for NOTHING? Did Bobcats managers make at the same time another dumb move for not getting him? Care to illuminate us with your explanations? ;-)
Scola is far from beeing an euro softie...any scout who watched him in europe can confirm it...one of his major weaknesses was beeing foul prone, and his deffense not beeing as good as his offense, both aspects has been noticeably improved, he still have room to improve, but he's showed in these years clear improvements from one season to another, specially in deffense and mid-range shooting, all this due to the contrasted hardworking ethic.There are no guarantees that Scola could perform as well with a NBA team. International bigmen have a tendency to struggle to adjust to the physicality of the NBA game. Sure, a few have managed but I'm not ready to bet on that. Besides, you don't have to move Rose right now to be able to bring in Scola next summer.
More speculation I see from your side, supposing that Scola will be as soft as Rasho or as unskilled as Ostertag, both supositions VERY far from reality.Again, speculation. Scola's skills might not translate well to the NBA game, especially given the difference in the defensive rules.
It was you who showed lack of knowledge about International Players when you used a so unskilled player Ostertag for an analogy involved to a guy so skilled like Scola.No, it's a product of your ignorance because clearly it points out the fallacy of relying on height and size to judge a bigman's value.
That's the other speculation I was talking about. First, Scola is not just 'technically sound' he's a player VERY skilled, with great footwork and post moves, a lot fundamentals and Basketball IQ on the floor. But beeing that technically gifted doesn't convert him in a stereotyped euro softie (in fact he's very strong and fast, and doesn't hesitate to fight inside, that's one of his problems of him getting into foul trouble), I invite you to download videos of his games to realize it with your own eyes.Again, speculation. One thing is for certain, however, and that is that Scola has not routinely faced the physical style of play that he would see in the NBA night in and night out. We've already seen how well a technically sound big like Rasho has handled that.
Oh so Barry was given an opportunity to just play regular minutes and all is well.
Imagine that.
I'll just go on record saying that I would really hate to see Malik go because I think he can be an excellent role player and a solid contributor. I've been a big fan since he joined the team, and I think it's sad the way Pop has handled him. Yes, he could be doing better and he has had some breakdowns, but Pop is not helping by gluing him to the bench. I think the whole problem with playing time/performance is related to the discord between Malik and Pop, and I really hope they work things out and Malik gets a real chance to contribute. If that can't happen, as much as I would miss him, maybe it would be better for Malik if he could go somewhere that he can get some steady PT and play under a more compatible coach.
The Bobcats are a new franchise with different considerations, namely the cap. The Spurs are capped out as it is and will be for at least the next 4 years regardless of what happens to Malik. The only motivation to move Malik is based on his contract. If you think a Brian Cardinal is worth more than a Malik Rose you need to watch more basketball.
And Nesterovic wasn't soft, for a Euro.Scola is far from beeing an euro softie...any scout who watched him in europe can confirm it...one of his major weaknesses was beeing foul prone, and his deffense not beeing as good as his offense, both aspects has been noticeably improved, he still have room to improve, but he's showed in these years clear improvements from one season to another, specially in deffense and mid-range shooting, all this due to the contrasted hardworking ethic.
You have no evidence that Scola could handle playing in the post in the NBA other than your hopes.More speculation I see from your side, supposing that Scola will be as soft as Rasho or as unskilled as Ostertag, both supositions VERY far from reality.
Actually I used it as a general example to show how the height of a player means very little with respect to a big's abilities. Here's another: Charles Barkley was 6'4" on a good day. Now I guess I have to write this so you can understand it: I am not saying that Rose is as good as Barkley was, but only that, again, height doesn't matter.It was you who showed lack of knowledge about International Players when you used a so unskilled player Ostertag for an analogy involved to a guy so skilled like Scola.
So before you try to critique my argument again at least get it right.
I've seen Scola play. Once you force him into a game with some semblance of man to man defense and against bigmen with the athleticism of those in the NBA then I'm afraid Scola will be average at best.That's the other speculation I was talking about. First, Scola is not just 'technically sound' he's a player VERY skilled, with great footwork and post moves, a lot fundamentals and Basketball IQ on the floor. But beeing that technically gifted doesn't convert him in a stereotyped euro softie (in fact he's very strong and fast, and doesn't hesitate to fight inside, that's one of his problems of him getting into foul trouble), I invite you to download videos of his games to realize it with your own eyes.
But, he'll be cheap and that is what matters to ownership first and foremost.
True, but isn't it odd how the discord happened just as the Spurs were facing the impending free agency of Ginobili? That contract has been hanging over his head like a dark cloud precisely because ownership has determined that they don't want to pay it. Pop and Lik never had this level of nonsense going on between them before he signed that deal.
Pay Malik to go away, he has used up all his chances with most of the fans and sad to say even Pop. It is just ridiculous when you cannot pass the ball to one of the five players on the court because of their horrid ball handling and his incompetent decision-making abilities. However, I cannot see anyone biting at Malik Rose, unless packaged with another player, and/or with a pick along with cash. But whom else do you think we might deal? Devin? Sato? As for Scola.. Scola is 6'9" 230 , Malik is 6'7"(more around 6'5) 245. I call him the "the skilled Malik Rose" and he is exactly what the Spurs need. I cant wait for him to be on the court with Tony, Manu and Tim. I'll be the first to say watch out NBA. These wont be the regular old Spurs , these SPURS will dominate like no other. Here are some of the things said about Luis Scola: he has a variety of post moves and can hit a j from 15 feet out, consistently. Also, he has played with Manu (and he possesses a high basketball IQ), and most importantly, is lauded for his consistent hardworking performance. People, this is the revolution of SPURS basketball.. Let Malik go already.. cut the cord.
Y'all need to lay off Malik--he brought quality cheesesteaks to San Antonio. The availability of quality cheesesteaks makes any discussion of his basketball ability or contract value moot.
Cheesesteaks....good.
What if Scola doesn't pan out? Then you are stuck without a reserve big other than 47 year old Robert Horry and 67 year old Tony Massenburg.
Maybe the Spurs can get a Jason Collier. I hear he's 7 feet tall.
7 feet tall, people. That means he's real good. Yeah.
Sparky,
Its simple Malik Rose Sucks. Brent Barry has had a very good career and is paid accordingly. Is he comfortable with the Spurs not yet? Does he deserve a chance? yeah. Does Malik deserve a chance? Dude has used up his nine lives.
Malik is overpaid and overrated.
Nothing more nothing less. Black and white. Really nothing to break down.
Another thing on the long list of things Malik THINKS he can do, but cant.can hit a j from 15 feet out
And Rose hasn't had a good career? Man where you even paying attention during the ing playoffs over the last 6 years?
Just shut up already and stick to worrying about corn in toilet bowls or whatever.
Ah yes, height, then jumpshot. The refuge of the clueless.
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