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I can see them draft a back-up point. Vaughn can hold it down for one more year. Nothing's cheaper than a second round rookie.
1) Don't forget Kopponen (Finland) as well
2) I rather doubt that we will draft a PG. Rookies are gambles. We can't afford a gamble at the back up PG spot. If he succeeds, he's only trade bait anyways, as Tony has the starter spot locked up for the next 5+ years. Finally, after the Vaugh and Udrih experience this year, I suspect Pop will want a veteran in that spot...
I can see them draft a back-up point. Vaughn can hold it down for one more year. Nothing's cheaper than a second round rookie.
Vet Min contracts are cheap too. And I am pretty sure that this is a spot where they want to minimize uncertainty. Finally, none of the prospects who are likely to be available in the 2nd are definately better than some of the top D-league guys. There are however, some strong possibilities of getting some steals at 33 for the wing spots. At 58, all the guys mentioned should be gone. The only gamble that I might see paying off is Sun Yue.
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/sunyue.html
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=1024
Even then, I think he is a pretty big gamble.
I think if one blows their skirts up in workouts they'll target a PG, because it's one of the issues.
Personally, I would love to see the Spurs go after a big PG who could contribut at both guard positions in the future. Filling two holes with one guy could be useful for the future (backup PG/SG).
I would definitely love to see guys like Crittendon or Pruitt fall to 28 <<salivating at the thought>>.
Crittendon or Pruitt at 28 would be very nice, even if I wouldn't naturally want to draft a PG there. They have too much to offer. Even an Aaron Brooks of Koponen with the 33 is a great risk and IMO much better in potential than any of the NBDL guys.
Thing is, we already have the vet min guy in Jacque Vaughn. He's okay, but nothing special, and in ways severely limited. They could do well to draft a young guy with potential and bring him around in a year or two to see what he's got. I'd go 28 for SF, 33 for PG, barring trades.
I'm expecting the usual some talent falls; therefore, I'd most likely be picking best available talent at 28 and 33 (barring trades). Unless we pick 2 bigs or 2 PGs we have room anywhere on our roster.
Projected Next Years Roster
Under Contract and Kept
Bigs - TD, Elson, Oberto, Butler, Horry (he might retire, but has a spot if he wants one)
Wings - Bowen, Finley, Barry, Ginobili, White,
PG's - Tony
Under Contract and Dumped (Somehow)
Udrih
Out of Contract
Ely, Vaughn, Bonner
For a 15 Man roster - 3 PGs, 6 Bigs, 6 Wings
Needs - 2 PG's, 1 Wing, 1 Big.
I do not expect to sign an FA to a contract of more than 1 year (Yes, a HUGE assumption, but it does fit with the mythical 2008 plan). Vaughn we can probably resign for 1 year. We are not bringing Scola over with a 1 year offer. We might also leave a spot open to save some money and have the option of grabbing someone promising from the D-league (like Justin Williams for the Kings this year).
That leaves us needing all 3 core spots (Big, Wing, PG). Therefore, draft based on talent. We currently have 28 and 33. We have some tradeable assets. There are a lot of decent Wing and Big prospects in the draft, and rather less PG's that I actually like. If I saw a good opportunity, I might try and trade up, if I had a specific player in mind.
Only four players will be picked between Spurs first round pick and Bucks second round pick. If a player is available at 28, he will likely be available at 33. Discussing if Spurs should draft a PG at 28 and a SF at 33 or the opposite is kinda moot.
About the PG situation :
Spurs won't have next season two non reliable backup PGs. The only way that a drafted PG plays with Spurs next year is if Beno is traded.
Most of these PGs are underclassmen and are testing the waters : I can see a lot of them going back to school/Europe if they aren't projected in the first round.
Spurs trading Beno isn't a sure thing at all. In beno isn't traded, drafting an euro to let him in europe is a good solution : at 28/33 with kopponen or at 58 with Bokolo who has a good end of the season.
Has Bokolo improved his playmaking, PG skills or just decision making in general? Somebody at LG who's hot on him put together some youtube. I'm sure they're highly culled highlights but he looks quite the athlete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbofUPZLlwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkB3JVVG7o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGPzh5AZAIg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fcK2qTGZ2gE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CtrjCEX3dls
There does seem to be a conceptual gulf between the 28 and 33 picks that doesn't actually include that many picked players. The key would be to figure what players those teams might nab. And I agree wholly that Dominic James, Pruitt, Crittendon, etc., will pull out of the draft if they seem to be dropping into the second round - but often these guys get lousy advice, so we'll see.
That said, I don't see Udrih on this roster in any form next year. His days as a Spur number as long as the playoffs will take and that's it. He's deadweight if they keep him; they'll trade him first, second simply cut him, since his roster space could be used for someone else. But I do think they'll trade him, with a shot that they'll keep him to trade halfway through the season to an ailing team. But I think he's done.
Bokolo plays now PG full time. He still isn't a good playmaker and never will be but he is improving. Let him one more year in europe and he can maybe become a solid backup PG in nba. He is a great pickup at 58.
How's his outside shot? Does he have possible Barbosa-type talent but maybe a better defender?
Bokolo at 58 could be a steal, but I hope the Spurs don't think they'll find their answer there. He'd be gravy, if anything.
I would be exstatic with Rush at #28 and Mcguire at #33. Only other SG I like better than rush at in mid to late 1st would be Byars which would probably require the psurs to trade into the middle 1st round. Wouldn't mind drafting PG James from marq. late in the 2nd (this guy is fun to watch)
If they don't find a trade for him, I doubt they will cut him. If they have kept Eric Williams, who was more a deadweight than Beno, this year; they will keep Beno next year.
The other solution is a buy out but Beno seems happy on the bench in SA.
Rush + McGuire would be a sick draft and considering team need and draft position one of the best in the league.
Can you imagine this Spurs team right now with these two guys on it? timvp and others keep insisting the Spurs won't draft two rookies for next year, but I don't see how they cannot.
At #28 Rush would only get 750K yearly (which in my opinion I would much rather have him over white) and mcguire would get even less. To make your team younger, more athletic, and save $ would be in my opinion how to have a good offseason for the spurs. 2 rookies on a roster of 13 vets I think is good ratio!!
but you hit on an important point... 2 rookies + white + butler?
His outside shot sucks. Barbosa isn't a good comparaison because he isn't at all a good scorer.
He is more a poor man Devin Harris.
I really do not think white will make the roster next year or he could be packaged in a trade deal. He played well against other reserves but I was not all that impressed. Butler will have to step up next year and challange for playing time. If comes overweight again look for him to be moved.
Last edited by yavozerb; 05-02-2007 at 04:35 PM.
Also, has anybody seen this kid Avis Wyatt play from virginia st. 6-10 sf/pf type player who from what I have read has decent offense and above average defender. I have seen him compared to a tim thomas on some mock draft web sites.
we talk about a pg backup and a sf but maybe the spurs could go after a big man
if someone they like fell to the no.28 pick
i don't think pop is so satisfied of elson and horry can retire but i don't think so
at sf guys like rush , mc guire ....stuckey , tucker could be good for the spurs
Spurs could definitely snag a big man... Marc Gasol or somebody. But the main pick will be a small forward. I'd bet my wallet on it.
your wallet or the money in it
Well nowadays the wallet is worth more.your wallet or the money in it
Oh, and add Rodney Stuckey to potential back-up point guard types. Really, I'd be surprised if someone isn't around with the Milwaukee pick, should the Spurs desire.
Yeah, I'd love to see him in a Spurs uni too. NBAdraft.net has the Spurs taking him with #33, but they also say that Byars will go top 20....something I see from no other site.
I think if a guy like Stuckey (or Pruitt, Crittenton, Fernandez, or Belinelli...all combo guard types) fall to the Spurs at #28 they should take him and hope that a guy like McGuire is still around at #33.
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