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I agree, I just hope we have what it takes to get a deal done.
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#73
Nocioni this year salary is $3M.
If the starting salary of his new contract is more than $3.6M, he will be BYC.
I agree, I just hope we have what it takes to get a deal done.
This is a good question. Before the Playoffs I would've guessed that Nocioni could easily pull the MLE if not more. But since his late-season injury and his poor showing in the playoffs, I'm not so sure anymore. Still, he might be a RFA...that I don't know.
Thanks for the info.
So that means his cap # as it relates to trades will be based on the $3M?
This BYC stuff matters only if he is signed to stay as a Bull, then traded, no? Or is it automatic anytime a player receives greater than a 20% raise in salary? Does a S&T maneuver make the BYC rule moot?
If not, it looks like Nocioni isn't going anywhere, unless he leaves for the MLE, which sucks for Chicago, who are allowed to get no value for him in any scenario.
Yes.
Let's say Nocioni get a starting salary at $6M.
His BYC trade value will be $3M : Bulls can't get more than $3.85M for him (125%+100k)
But his trade value for Spurs will be $6M : Spurs will have at least to give $4.72M to absorb Nocioni salary.
Tryna understand this myself.
His previous contracted salary or half his new salary, whichever is greater. Then the trade has to fit within the "within 125% plus $100,000" rule for trades between teams over the cap, which winds up almost impossible. Chicago would only be able to take back half of his new salary for trade purposes, which wouldn't be able to fall within that 125% + $100,000 window.
It's basically impossible to trade for a BYC player without being under the cap. I guess this applies to S&Ts as well...?
You have too BYC rules when you do a S&T.
No, it's just a little more complicate. Say me how much you wnat for Nocioni as starting salary and I will do a trade that work CBA wise.
Bruno, lets say 4.5 mil on noci..
IMO Noc will probably get a starting salary of about $6.5. Someone will offer him the MLE or maybe a little more.
This seems about right. A S&T would have to be higher than the MLE.
Cap question:
Is the amount the Spurs can contribute to a foreign players buyout limited to one player per offseason, or is able to be split?
Reason I ask is I wonder how much of a factor that is IF the Spurs wanted both Scola and Mahinmi considering that Mahinmi still has a year left on his deal.
Is it unlikely that the Spurs would be able to get both because they could only contribute the 500k to one player?
If it's for less than the MLE, the Spurs will be able to pay it out without a trade.....BUT, Nocioni is a restricted FA so the Bulls would have the opportunity to match what would end up being a high-value offer, so it might not work out.
Not sure on the answer to your main question, but I wanted to make a clarification to one of your points....
The clock on Mahinmi's contract hasn't started....his 3yr deal or whatever starts when he begins playing in the NBA.
I think he means that Mahinmi has 1 year left on his Euro contract.
Let's say $6.5M.
Nocioni BYC trade value will be $3.25M.
You have two ways to do it work : with a third team or if Bulls add salary.
You cna have :
Bulls trade :
Nocioni (S&T starting salary $6.5M)
PJ Brown (S&T starting salary $3M)
Bulls can't get more than $7.9M
Spurs must give more than $7.5M
Spurs trade Butler + Udrih + Horry (with Horry retiring).
and with a third team, it's quite easy to do.
Just to remind everyone that gordon and deng only have 1 year left on contracts before they Rest. FA, so this means that they will try and thrown some $ at these guys next yr to lock up long term..I really think noci is simply not in their future plans..
Yeah, they have some roster and salary questions to answer. Tax-wise they're doing fine now, but shouldn't splurge on players they may not need. They could very well keep Nocioni, but if they can pull a good post player for him... well, this second round series has shown that a lot needs to be changed and that Nocioni isn't necessary.
AFAIK, it's $500K per player.
If both Mahinmi and Socla come in nba, Spurs can give $500K to Mahinmi's euro team and $500K to Scola's euro team.
What is Mahinmi's buyout? I thought he signed a contract specifically that let him out after a year if he wanted.
If he had a buyout it's less than $500K.
It's possible that Pau has said to Spurs : " we aren't interested to have Mahinmi only for only one year, he will sign a two years contract with us and if you want him at the end of his first season, you would have to give us some money as a compensation."
agreed.
it was a way to give Pau something since they knew they'd only get him for year and have to accomadate a member of the Spurs staff there 24/7.
How has Mahinmi been doing? I know his playing time hasn't been the best recently.
Intervien Mahinmi today in a French Newspaper
http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/breves2...153207Dev.html
Good luck....
I'll post a light translation in few hours....
Don't waste your time by doing it, this interview has still been translated :
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66779
and he did it so well.......
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