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nash cooks up most reserve pgs. not saying vaughn is the answer (he isn't), but... it would be great to have someone more effective offensively.
I was the biggest proponent of snagging a PG prior to the trade deadline and was flat-pissed when a deal didn't get done. Vaughn has been effective in spots, but I've NEVER thought of him as more than a third-string type.
I think if a talented combo guard like Stuckey or Pruitt fell to them at 28 or 33, they should pull the trigger. The "other" big situation at least has a few potential options (Butler, Scola, Bonner, etc.), and the combo forward could be addressed with a trade or with the other pick possibly.
I think the Spurs MUST go out and get two things this off-season. The first is a legit combo forward and the second is a legit backup PG. Again, I'm not as worried about the "other" big situation because the Spurs have potential options.
nash cooks up most reserve pgs. not saying vaughn is the answer (he isn't), but... it would be great to have someone more effective offensively.
So you're all hoping that a rookie PG, drafted with a late first or early second, will be able to be a quite good backup PG in playoffs ?
You're very optimistic : PG in one of the hardest spot in nba and PG during playoffs is even harder. If you're not convinced by that, check what Marcus Williams, who has had a good rookie season, does with Nets.
If you want a better backup PG for next year than Vaughn, free agency or a trade is the solution. A rookie PG will likely be as bad/average than Vaughn. I have nothing against drafting a PG but this is more a solution for the 08-09 year and even if Spurs draft a PG this year, they will need to have a reliable PG (Vaughn or someone better).
I agree with Bruno, but not enough to counsel against drafting a PG. He's right that it's unlikely to see that guy do anything in the playoffs. Only a guy like Conley or Law could you expect to weather the pressure, although I wouldn't be surprised to see a guy like Koponen or someone else turn out to handle it fairly quickly.
This all said, it does look likely that Stuckey, Pruitt (if he stays), Koponen, and others will all be there with the 33. Judging by what PG/combo guards will be there versus what big men will be there, I'd judge the PGs possibly better talented. Eh, who knows.
All that said, I don't know what veteran PGs are out there and available. There are the Clippers, Bucks and Hawks that will possibly vaccuum up the more expensive ones (Billups, Mo Williams), but beyond that, I don't know.
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...byposition.jsp
There are very few good backup PG available in the free agency this year.
The only candidates are
Charlie Bell (restricted and likely too expensive).
Steve Blake (lot of teams are interested)
Earl Boykins (player option, not sure he will opt out)
Brevin Knight (team option)
Smush Parker
Chucky Atkins
Jannero Pargo
We will see what will happen but it's far from sure that Spurs will have a better backup PG than Vaughn next year.
It's doubtful. I'd take Atkins, possibly Pargo. Rumors have it Chris Duhon is available, but he's not been good lately. Nobody else looks better than Vaughn - I'd just as soon draft a guy in the early second and see if he pans out. We can maybe get by with him + Vaughn one more year, then see if he grows more into it.
Veteran back-up point guard... vanishing breed? Or just a really expensive one, looking at from Derek Fisher to Earl Watson?
We're probably going to try to work a trade for the backup point.
I'm not sure at all that Duhon, Atkins or Pargo are better than Vaughn.
A trade is maybe the only solution to get a good backup PG.
They're more expensive, that's for sure (Duhon/Atkins).
Gary Payton! He'll be available!
Does trading for a back-up make sense? What back-up? From where? Who do we trade for him? I can't envision the Spurs spending too much on a back-up player when they're pennypinching the lux tax as it is. And why trade for a point guard when, all along, Brent Barry could have done it for you (admittedly not that great on defense)?
When was the last time anyone called a Spur trade?Does trading for a back-up make sense? What back-up? From where? Who do we trade for him?
We're 1001 posts into a thread about draft picks, when it's just as likely the Spurs don't draft anyone we've mentioned.
Ah, it wasn't a rhetorical question. I was hoping someone would say it was me.
Pargo is not a free agent, he has one more year on his contract. Theres little chance that the Hornets trade him either, he really made a niche for himself with the coaching staff.
WOrd is that Bobby Jackson is available though. He didn't have that great of a season. Of course, his price is pretty high at over 5 1/2 per.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2654216
It seems that pargo has a player option for next year and he should opt out.
I don't see Spurs ready to take Jackson contract.
We are paying now for not playing Beno and Vaughn more during the meaningless part of meaningless games in the regular season.
I'm not saying Beno would have been great, but he could have learned some things about defense while playing those minutes. He is a good passer and better shooter than Vaughn.
You can't teach speed which Vaughn has compared to Beno--but on the other hand, Vaughn obviously knows nothing about offense or his limitations which makes him dangerous in games.
Beno is hopeless. Maybe Spurs can pick up a serviceable seasoned PG from Europe that they can afford like Toronto did with Calderon
Thats probably our best bet.
IMO, backup PG is far from being Spurs main priority this offseason.
Before Wednesday game, Spurs were +11 in 344 min during the playoffs with Parker and +3 in 90 min with Vaughn.
Given than Parker can play 42mpg in playoffs, Spurs don't need to have a great and expensive backup PG.
If Vaughn plays like he does in the Denver serie for teh rest of the playoffs, I'm fine with him as backup PG for next year.
Who is that?
Anybody hear if Hollis Price picked his game up in Europe. He was very good when he played for Oklahoma, but just didn't have enough PG skills for a 6'1 guy. Last I heard he was playing for CB Sevilla, but I don't know how good he was doing.
Aaron Miles and he will try to play in nba next year.
BTW, props to ChumpDumper for saying that he was a good player. I'm on the bandwagon.
He is still playing for Sevilla.
His stats :
http://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php...cod_edicion=51
Another player worth a summer league or training camp contract is Romain Sato. He is doing very well in Italy this year.
Yea I remember some of the discussion on him. Whats his story? It looks like he was in the league and isn't anymore? What are his strengths/weaknesses as well? All the stuff I find is dated.
So, is dealing with PHX to get a better 1st round pick TOTALLY out of the question now?
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