A handful of games in SL is not sufficient for decision-making. He could have played some spot minutes, but I doubt he even would have gotten those. In Europe, I think he'll be able to play meaningful minutes working on combo-forward skills that will further his development, probably more than getting sent to the Toros. There is some risk in that with the market as is, as others have pointed out, but it will make him a much better player, so it's worth the risk as a long-term investment.
Yeah, that's my question as well. He'll be playing with Trent Plaisted, who likes to hang out on the perimeter at times. Gist will most likely end up playing PF and even some C.What guarantee do we have that he'll play the 3 in europe?
The only way to guarantee him getting run at SF would be if the Spurs were in control. Too bad the Spurs don't have some sort of developmental team to send him to where they can have him work on his weaknesses in a controlled environment. That'd be nice.
I don't think Spurs plan is to turn Gist into a SF. He played PF in SL and should play PF in Italy.
Spurs' FO obviously wasn't as high as some people on this board about him.
That's probably what it comes down to. Watch what happens if Hairston makes the roster, there will be a meltdown.
so does this mean they like Hairston more than Gist and Hill if he ends up on the roster!? Better chance now of Tolliver being on the roster.
Your damn right there will be... damn!
Well obviously some people here went overboard in their evaluation of Gist but sending him to Europe doesn't automatically mean they aren't high on him.
A scenario that is pretty likely is that the Spurs don't think they'll have room for him in DLeague. Hill looked like a player who needed a year or two in DLeague. Mahinmi, sadly enough, looks like he needs another year in DLeague. And then Tolliver may end up in DLeague as well. Trying to rotate in a fourth player into DLeague would have been pretty much impossible.
Gist could have been caught in a numbers game if the Spurs think Hill and Mahinmi need more DLeague time ... which after summer league, wouldn't be surprising at all. If Hill and Mahinmi would have wowed, the Spurs wouldn't be looking at Pargo and signing Gist would have made more sense since the DLeague spots wouldn't be as cluttered.
I am starting to agree w/ppl saying this offseason is the worst in a while:
1. Splitter tells Spurs to off
2. We fail to sign Maggette
3. Hill is a way underachieving draft pick
4. Mahinmi does not show clear signs of improvement
5. Let the Gist go to Italy
Last edited by hater; 08-07-2008 at 11:17 AM.
This leaves the Spurs pretty thin up front-- I agree that Mahinmi is likely a slated for D-League time. Hill to D-League makes a little more sense of Pargo, but I have to believe that the Spurs have something else in the offing.
he was a little bit of a steal at 57, i had him going at 48
Don't get me wrong, great value for that pick. But still, a little perspective.
I'm not sure Spurs think that Mahinmi needs more D-League time. While Spurs are said to be after another PG, there has been few rumors about them being after a PF.
So either Spurs think that Bonner being Spurs' most athletic big outside Duncan is a good thing or Spurs think that Mahinmi could help them next year.
IMO, Gist hasn't been signed because of Mahinmi. Spurs still had on athletic PF under contract with Mahinmi and they didn't want to sign another one that wasn't an upgrade over the one they had under contract.
Duncan is not athletic at all
I heard Gist was moving the Spurs to Europe
they could re-sign Horry as well.
Devin Brown anyone?
1. LOL at Scola being the "missing piece" this year. You could argue that Manu's injury kept us from a championship a lot more effectively. But there's nothing Scola could have done that Tim Duncan couldn't do BETTER that would have helped us against the Lakers.
2. Time will tell on Hill. I haven't seen the FO so confident about a draft pick since Parker and Manu, and they we certainly right about those two. So, I'm going to trust their judgment until I see otherwise.
3. Not signing Gist this year doesn't mean we won't get him next year, if we want him. It was never clear whether he's NBA-ready this year anyway. Not signing Splitter was the result of the same economic downturn that send Childress, Arroyo, Boykins, etc overseas.
The Spurs are only going after Pargo now because Najera turned them down. Najera = PF.
Mahinmi sure did a good job of making it difficult to figure out which of the two was supposed to be the better prospect.
Spurstalk is hilarious
First, Najera isn't really the same kind of big than Mahinmi/Gist. Spurs going after Najera was more a sign that they didn't like Bonner.
Second, Spurs went after Najera before SL. Mahinmi not being that good during SL has nothing to do with Spurs going after Najera while Spurs going after Pargo could be because Hill has been so-so in SL.
"Oh somebody kill me please..."
So much for the Gist-mania going on over here....i guess he gets to be "phenomenal" in Italy.
Maybe, maybe not.
....And never eliminate the obscure head-scratcher move by the Spurs FO that leads to a thousand "worst move ever" posts, another thousand "IMO, remains to be seen" posts and a few "let me be the first to tell you this will work" posts.
not the worst idea
Will Bynum, Will Solomon, Tarence Kinsey, Bobby Brown, Ben Wallace, Ryan Bowen, and Bonner (even though lots of you hate him) have all improved their game in Europe and came back to the NBA
But the problem is will he come back if he's getting bigger offers in Euro?
Well, that's a personality issue that the Spurs should have looked into first.
...but you can always say one thing, and do something else (just ask magic fans about Fran Vasquez)
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