The San Antonio Dilemma

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The compe ion gets significantly better every year and so far this off season the Spurs haven't done enough to keep up with the compe ion. They stuck to their old stubborn ways of surrounding the big 3 with role players. Sure it got us 4 rings and it was great but at some stage you got to have a plan B.

When signing Roger Mason a guy that gave you 9ppg and expecting him to help your offensive droughts you got to be kidding yourself. Especially when Manu will be playing with a walking stick towards the end of the season.

Resigning the aging Kurt Thomas wasn’t a bad idea but he is 36. How much does he have left in him? If he gets injured then along comes the dud I can’t get a rebound Oberto who might start what a fuking joke. If that fails along comes Mahinimi who should go back and play volleyball.

Geoge Hill should stick to keep building houses. That opens the door to The Garbage Truck Vaughn, who is just fukin pathetic. Peter Holt will do a better job than him.

Michael Finley, who has been great for us but it was time to move on. He's done. The workers at the At&T center should put the wheel chair ramps up for him when he enters the building.

The Big 3 can only get us so far and I see us finishing 6th and getting knocked out in the 1st or 2nd round.

NOH or HOUSTON to take out the West.

THE RIDE IS OVER WE'RE DONE, BUT WHAT A JOURNEY IT WAS!

AGREE

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That 'average' supporting cast won a championship a year ago.
It went all the way to the western conference finals months ago.
Reality doesn't agree with you.
That said, I believe the FO is always looking to get better, and they've tried. They went after Magette. They went after Pargo. The players decided to go somewhere else. Nothing you can do about that.
You tell me which go to guy scorer we can get by trading any of those pieces? It's easy to say 'Let's get a go to guy'. But you need to be able to offer something the other team wants badly enough for them to make the trade. Again, you tell me: Who should the Spurs be pursuing that they didn't, that we could potentially get by trading those guys you mention above?

Do you understand what im saying? What im saying is when we won those les we had a decent supporting cast. Last season it wasn't bad it just had too many players that were done because of age so thats why we struggled to put the ball in the hoop. So coming into this off season i expected we improve our supporting cast. E.g Peitrus, JR Smith, we made a run at Magette, Ricky Davis, Delfino, trade for Artest, a bit of proven youth. I know some of them aren't all go to scorers but any one Or two of them would of been better than Finley and Mason. Mason and Finley they wont cut it. What pissed me off the most is that they only made an offer to one of them, Magette. They didn't get him so intsead the Spurs played it safe they had it planned all along if we cant CM then sign Mason re-sign Finley and call it an off season. They saved their money because there a bunch of tight asses and it's gonna come back to haunt those cowards.

You think if the Spurs could make a deal that is a steal they wouldn't do it?
It's not like Gasol was shopped around. Now, let say we do throw JV, Oberto and Udoka for Artest.
Our starting lineup: TP,Artest,Bowen,TD,Thomas...
Pros: Better defense through Artest.
Cons: Artest is a chucker. Does not know the system.
Now let's look at the second unit: Hill (rookie), Ginobili, Tolliver(rookie), Bonner, Mahinmi (rookie).
Pros: ????
Cons: If you don't see them, you must be blind.

So you just destroyed the surrounding cast around the big 3 in one trade. Exactly the opposite you were clamoring for. Unless you expect TP, TD and Bowen to play 48 minutes every game, I don't see how that deal would make us any better. I'll take JV over Hill, Udoka over Tolliver and Oberto over Bonner/Mahinmi every day of the week.

Oberto and JV i would put in that trade but Udoka who i rate highly but if it meant we get Artest then its a no brainer but i would try to throw in Finley or someone else instead. If that deal went threw it doesnt destroy our supproting cast we stll have Finley or Udoka, Mason, Bonner, Mahinimi. and Hll. Our supporting cast will survive becuase our Defense will be Phenomenal of the Artest acquisition. Would you rather have Artest with Houston? I DONT THINK SO.

Last I checked it was good enough to take us to the western conference finals. And I would argue we were an injury away from having a compe ive series against the Lakers.

Yeah it was good enough to get us to WCF last season but its a new season now. The West just got a whole lot better. In that series LA didn't have Bynum so it evens up. We lost that series becuase Oberto and Finley started. Barry and Thomas should of started instead of them and there are many more reasons why we lost that series that had nothing to do with Manu's inj.

So be a good boy, take your Xanax, and enjoy the first half of the season. If something needs to be tweaked, we can always do something mid-season

I cant see it happening, l have lost faith in the Spurs FO, they have always been over rated. They have just been blessed with 3 of the all time greats and that's pretty easy to build around especailly when proven veterans that want to win a le come to the spurs for less money because they know its team to be with. THE SPURS F.O CAN GO TO , THEY MAKE ME SICK!

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Do you understand what im saying? What im saying is when we won those les we had a decent supporting cast. Last season it wasn't bad it just had too many players that were done because of age so thats why we struggled to put the ball in the hoop. So coming into this off season i expected we improve our supporting cast. E.g Peitrus, JR Smith, we made a run at Magette, Ricky Davis, Delfino, trade for Artest, a bit of proven youth. I know some of them aren't all go to scorers but any one Or two of them would of been better than Finley and Mason. Mason and Finley they wont cut it. What pissed me off the most is that they only made an offer to one of them, Magette. They didn't get him so intsead the Spurs played it safe they had it planned all along if we cant CM then sign Mason re-sign Finley and call it an off season. They saved their money because there a bunch of tight asses and it's gonna come back to haunt those cowards.

Pietrus was signed early in the offseason, and you don't know we didn't make an offer there. JR Smith was a restricted free agent, which basically meant we would have had to wait until the last day to see if Denver matched the offer. Ricky Davis encompasses everything that is wrong with basketball, so I'm actually glad we didn't go for him. The Spurs actually did field an offer for Delfino (or at least had conversations with him). Now, he's set to make 30 millions for the next 3 years, so even if we wanted to, we couldn't offer him that kind of money with what we had left of the MLE/LLE. And there's no way to make the Artest trade without butchering half of our team. Not to mention that IIRC, Artest contract runs out at the end of the season. So unless you commit to him for a boatload of money with an extension, you would lose him after one year.

Oberto and JV i would put in that trade but Udoka who i rate highly but if it meant we get Artest then its a no brainer but i would try to throw in Finley or someone else instead. If that deal went threw it doesnt destroy our supproting cast we stll have Finley or Udoka, Mason, Bonner, Mahinimi. and Hll. Our supporting cast will survive becuase our Defense will be Phenomenal of the Artest acquisition. Would you rather have Artest with Houston? I DONT THINK SO.

Artest (and Timmy and Tony) can't play for 48 minutes night in and night out and then expect them to perform just as well during the playoffs. That's the point of having a solid supporting cast. No matter how you slice that trade, you would be forced to play 2 or 3 rookies in the second unit. Just like you said, with the West getting so good, how do you figure we'll fare being forced to play those rookies for 10-20 minutes a night? Even if our first unit would improve, they can't just play the whole game. And if you think that Hill, Mahinmi and Tolliver will see more than just marginal minutes this next season, you're just delusional.

Yeah it was good enough to get us to WCF last season but its a new season now. The West just got a whole lot better. In that series LA didn't have Bynum so it evens up. We lost that series becuase Oberto and Finley started. Barry and Thomas should of started instead of them and there are many more reasons why we lost that series that had nothing to do with Manu's inj.

I agree we needed a better supporting cast. The difference is that I don't think that what we ended up with at this point is for lack of trying. We went for Magette, we went for Pargo, we went for Giriceck... They just didn't want to sign with us. This FO has nothing to do with that.

I cant see it happening, l have lost faith in the Spurs FO, they have always been over rated. They have just been blessed with 3 of the all time greats and that's pretty easy to build around especailly when proven veterans that want to win a le come to the spurs for less money because they know its team to be with. THE SPURS F.O CAN GO TO , THEY MAKE ME SICK!

You, the armchair GM, has no problem. You also don't have to deal with cap space, with the fact that some teams don't want to trade assets, with the fact that some players prefer to play somewhere else. It's all easy for you.
And suggesting going for Ricky Davis sure as tells me enough of your basketball IQ and talent evaluation.
Just go back to your fantasy league, where everything is possible.