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If the Miami Heat win the championship, Shaquille O'Neal will surpass Michael Jordan to become the greatest basketball player of all-time. He won three championships with the Lakers before Kobe's ego destroyed that franchise. He gets traded to a mediocre team for three of their best players yet still takes that team to a championship. That is better credentials than anyone who has ever played. Shaq would become the best ever.

wade carried them in finals
shaq was not a factor except fo r hack a shack

[ShoogarBear]

Shaq has averaged 67 regular season games per season for his career, 69 if you exclude the lockout year.

Only once in the last five years has he played over 70 games in the regular season.

MJ has six Finals MVPs. Shaq has three, got swept in one Finals, and in this one was a complete nutrider.

Don't buy it.

[jman3000]

Shaq has averaged 67 regular season games per season for his career, 69 if you exclude the lockout year.

Only once in the last five years has he played over 70 games in the regular season.

MJ has six Finals MVPs. Shaq has three, got swept in one Finals, and in this one was a complete nutrider.

Don't buy it.

Nice

[ShoogarBear]

He posted this back in February, so he was crazy well before the Spurs lost.

The fact that he became a smallball defender should have also tipped you off.

[kris]

I defend smallball too because he is right, the league is evolving. But this?

This is a low quality shock value post where he thinks he's right in his mind but in reality isn't all there. Maybe he can recant some of this based on the fact Shaq averaged 5 points in the finals. (exaggeration)

Nobody has come close to touching MJ. I thought Tim might, but he faded off.

[Supergirl]

Shaq is already in the top 5 players of all time. There's just no one else like him, and probably never will be. Jordan is the same way. But Jordan won more championships with less to work with in Chicago. Shaq may have come at the price of 3 top players but he still has Wade, and that's the reason why they won this year. Jordan's next best player in Chicago was...Pippen? On any other team, with any other players, Pippen is a scrub. With Jordan and Phil coaching, he became a star.

[kris]

Shaq is already in the top 5 players of all time. There's just no one else like him, and probably never will be. Jordan is the same way. But Jordan won more championships with less to work with in Chicago. Shaq may have come at the price of 3 top players but he still has Wade, and that's the reason why they won this year. Jordan's next best player in Chicago was...Pippen? On any other team, with any other players, Pippen is a scrub. With Jordan and Phil coaching, he became a star.

Pippen was awesome. He would never have been a scrub in his prime.

[spur219]

Shaq surpassing Jordan as the greatest of all time. Honestly I hope that statement was being sarcastic. Sure Shaq is great but surpass Jordan of greatest of all time. Come on now lets be real.

[1Parker1]

Not even close.

[MoSpur]

I too hope Timvp was being sarcastice because that is way off.

[polandprzem]

STILL WITL WILL BE THE OST DOMINATN BASKETBALL PLAYER AND RUSSELL THE BEST CENTER IN HISTORY.
Shaq can fight for the 4th place as a best center. Now you must consider if Jordan was better then those centers.

[Darrin]

If the Miami Heat win the championship, Shaquille O'Neal will surpass Michael Jordan to become the greatest basketball player of all-time. He won three championships with the Lakers before Kobe's ego destroyed that franchise. He gets traded to a mediocre team for three of their best players yet still takes that team to a championship. That is better credentials than anyone who has ever played. Shaq would become the best ever.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar:
- Six-Time NBA MVP
- 38,387 points
- 17,440 rebounds
- 1,560 games
- Two Finals appearances with Milwaukee Bucks
- Eight Finals appearances with Los Angeles Lakers
- 1 NBA Championship with Milwaukee Bucks.
- 5 NBA Championships with Los Angeles Lakers.
- 19 All-Star Appearances.
- NBA Rookie of the Year.

Shaq hasn't got anything on him.

[clubalien]

remember that shaq isn't from this planet so shouldn't their be astricks by any award he holds?

[Guru of Nothing]

He posted this back in February, so he was crazy well before the Spurs lost.

The fact that he became a smallball defender should have also tipped you off.

February 2005

[ShoogarBear]

OMG, he's been hiding it longer than I thought!

[CharlieMac]

February 2005

I almost gave this dap too.

[E20]

They made trades after Shaq. Jason Williams, GP, Mourning came back, Antoine Walker, James Posey. Shaq scored 9 points and grabbed 12 rebounds in Game 6, Wade was the driving force behind the Heat, I didn't see Shaq hitting all those FT's.

MJ 6 Final MVPs
Shaq 3 Final MVPs

I always see hardware being the thing to count on this message board and there it is.

[timvp]

Yeah, February 2005. Meaning if the Heat won the le last year, it'd make Shaq the best ever. But this summer they got a whole new crew of players ... plus DWade became a Top 5 player in the game.

The Heat lost last year and Shaq didn't become the greatest player ever.

Now whether him winning this year has pushed him back past Tim Duncan is another story.

[J.T.]

Shaq rode wade for this one. I don't think he gets by Duncan with this one.

[whottt]

I predict this thread goes 10+ pages.

Strike one.

[whottt]

And BTW..........Wilt.

[RON ARTEST]

If the Miami Heat win the championship, Shaquille O'Neal will surpass Michael Jordan to become the greatest basketball player of all-time. He won three championships with the Lakers before Kobe's ego destroyed that franchise. He gets traded to a mediocre team for three of their best players yet still takes that team to a championship. That is better credentials than anyone who has ever played. Shaq would become the best ever.

damn i thought this was posted this year. i was about to say you are the dumbest poster of all time besides the heat fans who said wade is better than kobe.

[MadDog73]

Now whether him winning this year has pushed him back past Tim Duncan is another story.

I smell another thread coming... and I vote no.