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    Thanks Timvp for all this good stuff about TP stats. It's always nice to read your thoughts and analysis.

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    My bad for reading your post wrong. But seriously, your point doesn't hold up to the facts.

    Against Parker, the opposing point guards average 15.2 points per 48 minutes. That's not only a good mark, it's the best in the NBA for a starting point guard.

    Points Against Per 48 Minutes
    Parker, Spurs - 15.2
    Chalmers, Heat - 15.5
    Blake, Blazers - 16.1
    Felton, Bobcats - 16.2
    Rose, Bulls - 16.8
    Davis, Clippers - 16.9
    Billups, Nuggets - 17.6
    Alston, Rockets - 17.7
    Watson, Warriors - 18.3
    Ford, Pacers - 18.3
    Udrih, Kings - 18.7
    Calderon, Raptors - 18.7
    Bibby, Hawks - 18.8
    Conley, Memphis - 18.9
    Miller, 76ers - 19
    Rondo, Celtics - 19.1
    Harris, Nets - 19.3
    Fisher, Lakers - 19.4
    Paul, Hornets - 19.8
    Nash, Suns - 19.9
    Williams, Jazz - 19.9
    Kidd, Mavs - 20.6
    Nelson, Magic - 20.7
    Williams, Cavs - 20.8
    Ridnour, Bucks - 21
    Foye, T'Wolves - 21
    Duhon, Knicks - 21.2
    Dixon, Wizards - 21.2
    Watson, Thunder - 21.5
    Stuckey, Pistons - 26.7

    You can call me a Parker homer if you want for pointing out that your assumption is incorrect, however there are the numbers you asked for. Parker is far from a perfect player but to call him out for the player he guards scoring too much doesn't jive with reality when he's in fact the best in the league in the category you say he is weak in.
    Where did you get these stats?

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    Where did you get these stats?
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    Ok well the updated stats have skewed because of the relatively small sample size (I would guess). Here are a couple numbers that stood out to me:

    Opponent FG% / 48 minutes : 52.3%
    T/O Comparison : -1.3

    What is iFG?

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    Ok well the updated stats have skewed because of the relatively small sample size (I would guess). Here are a couple numbers that stood out to me:

    Opponent FG% / 48 minutes : 52.3%
    T/O Comparison : -1.3

    What is iFG?


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    crawdad aint just a fish you eat in season in march.
    Maybe you should read the stats before you post.

    The points/game against went from 15.2 to 16.9. That's quite a leap after one game.

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    As a comparison here are the numbers for the rest of the rotation guys.

    Duncan's Opponents:

    At PF - 47%
    At C - 51.4%

    Manu's Opponents:

    At SG - 53.4%
    At SF - 55.3%


    Bonner's Opponents:

    At PF - 50.3%
    *There are no stats for him at C

    Hill's Opponents:

    At PG - 41.7%
    At SG - 50%

    Mason's Opponents:

    At PG - 50%
    At SG - 52.3%
    At SF - 60.7%

    Bowen's Opponents:

    At SG - 40%
    At SF - 45.4%
    At PF - 37.1%

    Udoka's Opponents:

    At SF - 48.2%
    At PF - 45.8%

    KT's Opponents:

    At PF - 48.7%
    At C - 42.9%

    Finley's Opponents:

    At SG - 58.1%
    At SF - 49.7%
    At PF - 35%

    JV's Opponents:

    At PG - 42.2%

    Oberto's Opponents:

    At C - 48.1%

    One could also argue that the opponent SG FG% should be higher since point guards aren't typically known for their shooting prowess.

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    Adjusting for pace in this scenario doesn't make much logical sense. If a point guard is good at getting back on defense and slowing down the opposition, he gets penalized.
    Basketball is a game of possessions. If a TEAM uses a 24 second clock on offense, like the Spurs do, it is clear that the opponents have less chances to score over a certain period of time, like 48 minutes, since they will have less possessions overall over the course of a game against the Spurs. So your answer is just one side of the coin.

    Take care.

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