iron mexican

[Blake]

I hope you learned you're lesson about trying to reason with people who went to Tech.

probably not.

[monosylab1k]

Look at the picks from 2000 to 2006. Out of these, the only pick that was better was the Asomugha pick.

Every single one of those picks is better than taking a ing kicker in the 1st round. Whether the player is a bust or not is completely irrelevant here.

Why didn't your team just follow that one up by drafting a towel boy with your 3rd rounder?

[monosylab1k]

The best pick of this decade for the Raiders was undoubtedly Nnamdi Asomugha. He was supposed to be a third round prospect, and everyone called it a reach, but look at him now.

Actually, that further shows their stupidity if anything. If they know that they can wait and take him in the 2nd round, why waste a 1st rounder on him? You can try to find another impact player in the 1st round, then take Asomugha in the 2nd round, because you know that people aren't going to start looking at him until late in the 2nd or in the 3rd. Or you can trade down, collect a future 2nd rounder ( maybe a future 1st) and then take him. It was absolutely a reach to take Asomugha that high if they knew that they could have gotten him later.

I dont think you Raider fans understand the economics of draft picks.

[IronMexican]

If he comes in and does what he is supposed to do, then it isn't a wasted pick. The Bills selected Donte Whitner at #8 and he was a late first round prospect. But no one is ripping them anymore. Even Harvey at #8 last year for Jacksonville is looking pretty good, and that was a major reach.

[BUMP]

bottom line is that you can find decent kickers almost anywhere. whats next? drafting a long snapper in the top 5?

[monosylab1k]

And I think that year the Cardinals were gonna select Jano, if he was there. The Raiders were thinking of trading down, but didn't, because they were afraid of losing him to the Cards.

Great, so your team is more re ed than the historically most re ed franchise ever.

If you let the Cards take him, you get Shaun Alexander or Keith Bulluck, and Neil Rackers is still available later.

[IronMexican]

No doubt it wasn't the smart pick looking at it, but they could have done a lot worse(sadly)

[monosylab1k]

If he comes in and does what he is supposed to do, then it isn't a wasted pick. The Bills selected Donte Whitner at #8 and he was a late first round prospect. But no one is ripping them anymore. Even Harvey at #8 last year for Jacksonville is looking pretty good, and that was a major reach.

That's what separates the bad franchises from the good ones. The Patriots could have taken Jerod Mayo at 7, but they knew that was a small reach, so they trade down and collected a future 3rd rounder from New Orleans in the process. And they still got their man at 10.

It doesn't matter how good the player turns out. If it's a reach to take him that high, you trade down and get him later, and you collect more draft picks in the process. And if you know nobody is looking at him for another 2 rounds, you don't waste your 1st rounder on him.

It's like paying 100 bucks for a 10 dollar watch. It doesn't matter if that watch turns out the be the best, most reliable watch you ever got and lasts you the rest of your life. If the value of the watch was set at 10 and you paid 100, you still overpaid for it.