If I remember correctly, the Spurs also offered the MLE to Joel Pryzbilla who turned them down.
We're not telling you what to do. We're just telling you how dumb you look while you do it...Part of the problem with SA being a one horse sports town is that too many fans identify too much with the franchise and take any criticism of the team, management & ownership personally. What the F do we care if ownership makes some extra coin? We're fans, mofos. Teams cater to fans. Too many of you act as though it is we who owe ownership something. F that. That's redneck dumb.™
I'm not asking you not to criticize...I'm just asking that if you claim to know better, then show me how that is.Part of the problem with SA being a one horse sports town is that too many fans identify too much with the franchise and take any criticism of the team, management & ownership personally. What the F do we care if ownership makes some extra coin? We're fans, mofos. Teams cater to fans. Too many of you act as though it is we who owe ownership something. F that. That's redneck dumb.â„¢
You're sure as day that they did it wrong, but have no idea what was right....what kind of dumb is that?
"Dumb" is accepting everything the Spurs do as the best possible decision and defending ownership as if their financial success actually impacts you.
Well, I already said that I did not accept everything they did as the best possible decision. But from that to say that all they did was 'hubris' is pretty dumb right there.
I understand many of the negative points here, but I have no idea why some of you are so down on next year..
it seems like everybody forgot how Duncan was playing before the tendonisis..they have said that it will heal with a few months..he'll STILL be injured, but it'll be the same he was playing with in the 1st half of the season, and for years..he's still going to easily be a top 5 big man next year, without question..
Parker is a top 3 PG, and there's no reason to think he won't be again next year..
the NBA is a league of stars..when you have players like Parker and Duncan, it's the players around them that need tweaking..
Vaughn, Oberto, Bowen, and Udoka are all free agents next year, so that's already a step in the right direction..
we have young players with potential that we'll be counting on to be ROLE PLAYERS next year..
most important of all, we have Manu Ginobili..he'll either be counted on to fill the big 3, or he'll be traded in the off-season for something we need..there are a HANDFUL of teams that will want cap space for 2010, or just to save $ in general..Manu has a 10 million$ contract that expires at the end of the year..a contract like that can get us an immediate impact player, or get us a few, younger impact role players to surround Duncan and Parker..
yes, the front office has ed up..but this off-season is going to be key..that's 2 years in a row without a le, and we have no excuses..so obviously if they don't go out to make the moves this off-season, then these points are completely valid, and you can say that the Spurs FO is overrated..
we still clearly have options though..
I remember the worst thing in the aftermath of 2007 was the determination to "bring all the guys back to defend their le". It was lunacy.
Re-signing Jacque Vaughn to a 2 year deal? Wait . . . what? I know it was for the minimum, but Vaughn was such a weak link that year, Pop had to scheme just for him against PHX to keep him on the court.
Re-signing Oberto and Bonner, to defend their le. Huh? A default starter and a guy who wasn't even in the rotation?
The writing was on the wall that other teams would improve and the Spurs would need to do the same, the Spurs instead did nothing but add Udoka.
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Young players need both practice reps and court time to develop. It does no good to have young players if the coach will not give them any time. Or if the coach plays them for half the season, then suddenly decides that he can no longer trust them and banishes them to the bench.
Making moves is one thing. Making the right moves is totally something else. Bringing in parts that don't fit or parts that cannot improve the talent level and skill set is as bad as not making moves at all.
of course you're right on both points..my point is simply that we have options..whether or not they make the best moves is yet to be seen..
as for the coach..of course that's an issue, but I'm under the assumption that he finally realizes this team needs a youth infusion after 2 years without a le..
If there is a silver lining in all this and if the coach and GM now fully GET the mandate that many here, including myself, have been clamoring for for them to GET YOUNGER and MORE ATHLETIC in order to maintain their championship window, then I'll sign on for that. This piss-poor period that we're enduring will be worth if, by this time next year, we have a younger, quicker, more skilled team, that isn't existing on a one-year window, every season.
I also believe they thought they could continue to wing it in the frontcourt with their motley crew. After all, they just won a le...
Oberto + Horry really seemed to decline from that summer until the next season. So naturally the Spurs ended up burning this year's draft pick to find a decent bigman last year.
Or, perhaps the Spurs' path to the '07 le was that weak. I mean, Utah in the WCF?
I also see fans assuming the Spurs will use their mid-level exception in the offseason. Don't be so sure. Between angling for more of that Lux Tax pie and planning ahead for the Great Free Agent Snipe Hunt of 2010, it's highly likely that the Spurs opt not to use a part or all of it this summer.
Bottom line, nobody foresaw that Ginobili would be this broken down in the 08-09 season, all those seasons ago when they were missing out on draft picks, trading Scola to a division compe or, not going after Splitter, etc.
If Ginobili were even 90% healthy right now, all this conversation would pretty much be moot and people would think the Spurs still had a chance at championship contention. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that....
Is it really that much of a stretch to consider what the Spurs would look like without one of the big 3?
The Spurs have been playing poorly for the past month, with or without Manu. The writing should have been on the wall last off season when the Spurs were exposed for being a slow, old and plodding team against the Lakers in the WCF. They made no significant improvements to that roster and here we are...
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