And the Spurs pay for their hubris.

[Marcus Bryant]

Ownership and management thought, after the 2007 le, that they had figured it out. They had found that balance between winning championships and profitability. Lauded, they were, by many in the media, who focused on Pop's coaching style and his system, but as well on their personnel and payroll decisions. Not to mention their love of Luxury Tax payouts.

Many fans believed this nonsense as well. Of course, had the Mavs not pulled the luck of the draw in the 1st round of that playoffs with the Warriors, 2007 might well have had a different outcome for the Spurs.

So good, the Spurs thought they were, they could gift talent to a team in their division for nothing but to save a few bucks. Naturally during the following season they would give up a 1st round pick to land a player at that same position.

As it stands, the Spurs pin their hopes on yet another magical free agent summer going forward, content to piss away the few remaining seasons left of one of the greatest bigmen ever to play the game.

[mexicanjunior]

I don't think I've ever seen such a surly post from you...

[DMX7]

The rest of the NBA got better this season and we got worse.

[tp2021]

The rest of the NBA got better this season and we got hurt.

[ducks]

Ownership and management thought, after the 2007 le, that they had figured it out. They had found that balance between winning championships and profitability. Lauded, they were, by many in the media, who focused on Pop's coaching style and his system, but as well on their personnel and payroll decisions. Not to mention their love of Luxury Tax payouts.

Many fans believed this nonsense as well. Of course, had the Mavs not pulled the luck of the draw in the 1st round of that playoffs with the Warriors, 2007 might well have had a different outcome for the Spurs.

So good, the Spurs thought they were, they could gift talent to a team in their division for nothing but to save a few bucks. Naturally during the following season they would give up a 1st round pick to land a player at that same position.

As it stands, the Spurs pin their hopes on yet another magical free agent summer going forward, content to piss away the few remaining seasons left of one of the greatest bigmen ever to play the game.

so would you have supported trading manu for someone else that would have less chance of breaking down

[ElNono]

Ownership and management thought, after the 2007 le, that they had figured it out. They had found that balance between winning championships and profitability. Lauded, they were, by many in the media, who focused on Pop's coaching style and his system, but as well on their personnel and payroll decisions. Not to mention their love of Luxury Tax payouts.

Many fans believed this nonsense as well. Of course, had the Mavs not pulled the luck of the draw in the 1st round of that playoffs with the Warriors, 2007 might well have had a different outcome for the Spurs.

So good, the Spurs thought they were, they could gift talent to a team in their division for nothing but to save a few bucks. Naturally during the following season they would give up a 1st round pick to land a player at that same position.

As it stands, the Spurs pin their hopes on yet another magical free agent summer going forward, content to piss away the few remaining seasons left of one of the greatest bigmen ever to play the game.

We could have arguably won it all last season if not for the lopsided trade that landed Gasol in LA, something the Spurs had absolutely nothing to do with. I figured I would add that since you seem to have missed it from your revisionist history of last season.

[ducks]

spurs had some bad luck with the schedule and the plane thing against the osers last year

[Marcus Bryant]

While the Spurs perhaps could not have predicted the Gasol trade, they certainly should have expected that the rest of the league would find ways to improve...and that giving up talent for profit might not have been such a great idea.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree that they should have acquired an athletic SF..

everything else is irrelevant though..

the backup PG position was supposed to be fixed with Hill..and we were supposed to have Mahinmi playing this season..

nevertheless, after 2 straight years without a le, I would expect some changes this off-season..Bowen, Udoka, Vaughn, and Oberto are probably gone according to their contracts..

this is going to be a very important off-season..

[spurs1990]

We could have arguably won it all last season if not for the lopsided trade that landed Gasol in LA, something the Spurs had absolutely nothing to do with. I figured I would add that since you seem to have missed it from your revisionist history of last season.

What the ?

If Pau Gasol didn't get traded, we would have won the champsionship?

Oh ok, well if the Spurs shot 100% from the field, then they probably would have advanced as well.


MB made an excellent point in that the FO is wasting Timmy's years while he still has fuel in the tank.

Those thrifty chickens have and are still coming home to roost.

[ducks]

spurs picked Mahinmi
hopping he would be playing now
they picked splitter thinking he would be playing now

[ElNono]

What the ?

If Pau Gasol didn't get traded, we would have won the champsionship?

Oh ok, well if the Spurs shot 100% from the field, then they probably would have advanced as well.


MB made an excellent point in that the FO is wasting Timmy's years while he still has fuel in the tank.

Those thrifty chickens have and are still coming home to roost.

It was a lopsided trade. Boston got better too, but they had to give up talent and live through years of mediocrity to do so.
But we can talk now that we know how things developed, while the decisions that are being criticized were before any of these thing happened.

And it's even more incredibly easy to tell other people to take risks and spend their money. As of right now, we got 4 championship banners hanging from the rafters. That's 4 more banners than a whole lot of other more resourceful teams in this league.

[HarlemHeat37]

the Lakers DID have to go through pain to get Gasol though..they had to trade Shaq to pick up assets that would later be traded..they missed the playoffs once, which got them Bynum..they got higher picks, since they weren't a great playoff seed for 2 years..

[ElNono]

the Lakers DID have to go through pain to get Gasol though..they had to trade Shaq to pick up assets that would later be traded..they missed the playoffs once, which got them Bynum..they got higher picks, since they weren't a great playoff seed for 2 years..

While I agree that having to watch Kwame Brown was painful (), there's no way in you can trade him for a guy like Gasol. And the pain, if anything, was fairly short. How long did Boston suffer like a until they had enough to rebuild their entire team?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

so would you have supported trading manu for someone else that would have less chance of breaking down

ducks, go beat off to your Tony Parker bobblehead and call it a night.

He's talking about things like trading Scola and refusing to address the need for a Bowen replacement.

[ducks]

trading scola was smart
could have got more
scola hatted pop
he could not handle him

[HarlemHeat37]

that's the NBA now though..there are a number of cheap teams are going to trade great players for expiring contracts and draft picks..LA had a good offer that satisfied Memphis..obviously from a talent perspective, the Lakers took advantage..

the Lakers have taken advantage of teams for decades..they've gotten most of their players due to the location of the city attracting free agents..due to other players asking for trades, or demanding to be drafted there(Kobe, IIRC)..due to financial problems of other teams..

sadly, they're always going to have these advantages..but in this case, they did have a good deal..

honestly, Manu's deal might be able to get us something like that this off-season, as bad as that sounds..

[E20]

Got damn ducks.

I know you try hard to make yourself look like a person who has no knowledge of basketball, but shieet you are trying too hard.

[ducks]

how many years does chandler have left?
spurs have expiring contracts (bowen-oberta)
chandler boards well and would help duncan
and can jump
oh and tp could throw him alley-oops

[Indazone]

Thanks for Scola. Much appreciated

[ducks]

foul on scola with the off arm

[RC's Boss]

Thanks for Scola. Much appreciated

What does Scola have to do w/ this???? IF he were here, we'd still be in bad shape w/ Manu out. You can keep Scola, what we need NOW is a perimeter scorer from the 2 or 3, which is what I personally was hoping for.

[DMX7]

The rest of the NBA got better this season and we got hurt.

It's a product of us getting older and not any deeper.

[MaNu4Tres]

It's a product of us getting older and not any deeper.

I think we are deeper. But I think the problem lies of having too many of the same type of players. Spot up shooters who can't break down a defense, aren't athletic and that can't play defense. The only guy that can play great defense is the worst offensive guy and is turning 38 next year.

Another problem we have is not having a distinguished big man next to Tim. We just have a bunch of average joe's I guess you could say. Scola could be that guy.

[RC's Boss]

I think we are deeper. But I think the problem lies of having too many of the same type of players. Spot up shooters who can't break down a defense, aren't athletic and that can't play defense. The only guy that can play great defense is the worst offensive guy and is turning 38 next year.

Another problem we have is not having a distinguished big man next to Tim. We just have a bunch of average joe's I guess you could say. Scola could be that guy.

Yeah, even Mason... While he can not only spot up, but also run off screens and shoot it, he still lacks in the penetration dept.... (Beavis & Butthead would be laughing at that right now!) Tony will be like Paul on the perimeter, no wing player to break down defenses