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It is a dangerous job, but that does not give then the right to shoot first, and ask questions later.
How can you defend the police action?
That cannot apply uder the cir stances seen.
If someone chases after me with a gun, I will run them down. They are the perceived threat to me. I have the right to act.
If you make illegal to take action against any police officer just because he is a police officer, we are then a police state. Especially when they are not in uniform.
The badge is not a right to indiscriminately kill. Undercover cops are trained for such things to. The guy shooting, without a doubt, is guilty.
It is a dangerous job, but that does not give then the right to shoot first, and ask questions later.
How can you defend the police action?
It doesn't matter what she says. The police shot an innocent man who appears to be fleeing from an armed robbery. Unless you are going to contend Judge Dread has the right to be the judge, jury, and executioner against a john.
Hey, if you're going to have decent security, occasionally the cops will have to kill some innocent people. There's no reason for that guy to be hanging out in a neighborhood like that. He was asking for trouble.
Don't try to be one of those bleeding hearts who goes into the ghetto and tries to "help" people. They're beyond help.
All you idiots that say he had no business there and that the shooting is justified are idiots. So is everyone that is saying that we have never been in those cops shoes well guess what dumbass neither have you. There is training that they go through and I doubt that they are taught to rush the vehicles of people THAT ARE NOT suspects and start shooting when they scare that person.
Who says he had no business in a "neighborhood like that"? Just because you are a punk and too scared to go somewhere like that doesn't mean that other people are scared little punks.
First of all, the agent wasn't ran over, he was hit by the car. Why? Because these agents jumped out of a black SUV, with tinted windows, plain clothes, and guns drawn. It just so happens that he's in the bad part of the neighborhood. What do you want him to do? Do you honestly think you would sit there as two armed men are running towards you? I wouldn't. So he puts it in reverse, and hits one of the guys.
To the second part of the quote, this guy will never get the chance to file a complaint. These agents decided to shoot first and ask questions later. Not a very good decision. 1.) They killed an innocent man. 2.) They were shooting at a gas station. 3.) There were witnesses around. What if they missed? What if one of the bullets ricocheted and hit someone? There's too many bad instances that could have occurred. Sadly, there was one, but thankfully it was only one. It could have been a lot worse.
Nobody was ran over.
I think escalating into a high speed chase might have been better than shooting repeatedly in a very crowded area. There probably would have been no chase because the pastor would have realized they were cops and pulled over. And yeah, blocking him in would have been smart.Again, why let it escalate to a high speed chase? Why not end it there?
The only way I see this ending better, and I can't believe no one has brought this up yet, is why didn't they just blcok him in when they pulled up?
I am almost always on the police side of things, but in this case, I think they could have easily avoided having to shoot anyone. If they had surveillance on the girl, then they already ran the plate of the pastor's vehicle and knew who he was. They weren't in fear for their lives thinking he was a gun-weilding drug dealer. He was just a pastor who panicked and tried to speed away.AND most importantly, if you are in a crowded place and more than one person is running at you yelling police, theyre probably the iing police. This wasnt a country road at 3 a.m. and a hot chick with big s and a low cut shirt is getting pulled over by a 1981 el camino.
LMAO at the people who are claiming badges as bling and saying they cant see the badge in the video. well no sherlock, a surveillance video is grainy, I never knew.
Lesson learned here, and to be honest in most cases in the news, respect the cops authority and if you have a problem with what he did, file a complaint afterwards. The chances of him being a fake cop are pretty damn small.
There was no need to confront the driver with weapons drawn on the premises of the gas station.
There was no probable cause to apprehend the driver. The driver was entirely within his rights not to answer questions and drive away if he so chose.
They could have run his plate, gotten his address, and showed up at his house later to ask questions, and 99% chance he would have answered them.
If I saw two people in plainclothes with weapons drawn coming towards me, I would assume I was being carjacked. In two or three seconds, I am not going to process that these are "police." I am going to panic and get the out of there.
Everything the police were saying about thinking there was a drug deal going on, or that the driver was coming towards them in a "threatening manner," is contradicted by the videotape. The driver had just come out of the convenience store and was getting back in his car. The tape shows the driver backing up, then going into drive to turn and try to get away. The officers are firing at him as he is trying to get away. They are not shooting because they are in danger; they are shooting to keep a person they have no authority to detain from escaping.
The officers are lying because they killed a man for no reason. Their decision-making and the results betray a poorly-trained, overly-aggressive rural drug task force.
It is occurrences like this that drive me further and further towards the conclusion that the War of Drugs is a waste of time, money, and lives. If police really have to resort to those kinds of tactics where they end up killing innocent bystanders, then maybe we should learn our lesson from Prohibition.
I wonder how many innocent people who are not so apparently squeaky-clean get killed by the drug cops?
And I wonder why so many people are so willing to tolerate increasingly authoritarian conduct from all levels of government? Is this Weimar America?
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there i saved ya'll from the trouble of trying to read and look at it from another view. just go ahead and type in whatever extreme view you want to take and talk about how a local cop bust gone wrong is the latest evidence to a tyrannical govt and how i should be worried about black helo's showing up in themiddle of the night and agents in black will wisk me away to obama's socialist/nazi/communist/insert whatever hot topic word you can think of here camps and re configure my hard drive so i will be no more than a mere puppet of the govt regime.
And for the dumbasses, helo is short for helicopter.
^ Way to go off the deepend man.
That was the deepend?
I hate the local police in this state, really. I am convinced we could do much better without them. These local cops do a terrible job when required and hardly serve beyond the call of duty. The ones that do, are outliers and deserve to be in the FBI or a State trooper. If you need to file a police report from a multi county theft, they often pass it on to other jrusidictions in a never ending game
We could just expand the state trooper count and juridiction and be just fine.
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