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    He only played in 19 games at the end of the season without any prepaation like preseason to help learn the Spurs defensive system which everyone agrees is a difficult system to learn .

    It's not as though McDy came in after camp and preseason and started kicking ass and taking names on defense. Instead we get excuses like "He always starts the year slow" like those posters really know about him and his past play.

    All I know is that 28 usually beats 35 when it comes to useful minutes. And that's what the stats and minutes seem to indicate is happening. Pop has now decided that McDy can't start and has to come off the bench and that means Bonner has to start. Not what a lot of us anticipated for McDy.

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    He only played in 19 games at the end of the season without any prepaation like preseason to help learn the Spurs defensive system which everyone agrees is a difficult system to learn .

    It's not as though McDy came in after camp and preseason and started kicking ass and taking names on defense. Instead we get excuses like "He always starts the year slow" like those posters really know about him and his past play.

    All I know is that 28 usually beats 35 when it comes to useful minutes. And that's what the stats and minutes seem to indicate is happening. Pop has now decided that McDy can't start and has to come off the bench and that means Bonner has to start. Not what a lot of us anticipated for McDy.
    mcdyess has always been a bench player even for pistons...Last season started for them only coz of injuries .... obv you dont do your homework.

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    LOL at this fail of a thread.

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    They both kind of have the same game, except Mcdyess has a better IQ and better defense, only bad thing about losing Gooden was that he was so younger than Mcdyess.

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    I'd like to revive this thread because of the recent performances of the two players. Does anyone know for sure what the relative payrolls are

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    Gooden played extremely hard last night. He wants to beat up on his old team. It's just weird that his old team was only his team for 20 games? Gooden hustles on most nights and some nights he can really score. At the end of the day he is a dumbass. You can't trust him.

    Ask me 1,000 times today who I want on the team, with current contract and all, I take McDyess 999 times. You might catch me talking to somebody else and hear a "It's all gooden!" but that just comes up in conversation.

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    Gooden played extremely hard last night. He wants to beat up on his old team. It's just weird that his old team was only his team for 20 games? Gooden hustles on most nights and some nights he can really score. At the end of the day he is a dumbass. You can't trust him.

    Ask me 1,000 times today who I want on the team, with current contract and all, I take McDyess 999 times. You might catch me talking to somebody else and hear a "It's all gooden!" but that just comes up in conversation.

    Gooden's not playing like that just against the Spurs as revenge. Read anything from Dallas players and coaches and they think he is a real good addition to the team.

    I'm not sure a dumbass big man role player off the bench for a double double isn't a better option than an old guy with a great BB Iq who hasn't got it anymore.

    The point is that it looks to me that we made a mistake and took the weaker player at this point in time. Maybe if we had the option of looking at them both at comparable points in their career Dice would have been the better choice--but now? Maybe not.

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    A defining story on Gooden from the Dallas paper. The Mavs coaches and players have had time to assess his play and they really appreciate the guy. I wish we'd have given him another year. When was the last time anyone on our team had 18 rebounds in one game?

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.3147612.html

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    I miss kurt thomas

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    when talking about role-players it is not who is the better player. the question is who is the better player within a specific team concept.

    Gooden is fitting for the mavs and their needs.
    he obvoiusly wasn't working within the spurs. at least not the way popovich wanted/ expected.

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    Gooden's not playing like that just against the Spurs as revenge. Read anything from Dallas players and coaches and they think he is a real good addition to the team.

    I'm not sure a dumbass big man role player off the bench for a double double isn't a better option than an old guy with a great BB Iq who hasn't got it anymore.

    The point is that it looks to me that we made a mistake and took the weaker player at this point in time. Maybe if we had the option of looking at them both at comparable points in their career Dice would have been the better choice--but now? Maybe not.


    There is no real reason to argue about this. This is a wait-and-see what happens when it's win or go home. You have your opinion and I have mine. I just so happens that your opinion is wrong.

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    There are nights when Gooden just plain out sucks. I don't know why he is so streaky. A big man should be more reliable. But I've seen it where the other team goes on a big run once Gooden comes in the game. I think the problem is Gooden is relied on to be a big man that clogs the paint. That is not his strength. He is a power forward that needs a big man to do that for him.

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    i know i had posted here that ppl should stop downtalking gooden and that he was a good addition

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    Nice website!

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