Time to trade Tony Parker

**spursrocks** · 04-10-2010

well if bynum is not the answer then we can still explore other options. parker has value, lakers isnt the only team out there. btw, dont curse we are all en led to our opinion. remember this is a forum right? we have our opinions, there are parker lovers there are parker haters, there are those who wants parker to remain a spur there are those thinks really plain sucks.
we are all fans right? our opinion wont matter for the FO. they dont care what we think. the FO is still the gods behind the spurs rosters. its up to them to do whats best for the team

**FkLA** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by stéphane

Awesome

The guys screen name is FkLA and the first player he wants by trading our all star PG is a Laker. Way to go clown.

Im a Spurs fan before I am a Laker hater and Andrew Bynum is exactly what the Spurs need. Are you sure youre a Spurs fan before you are French when it comes to this particular situation?

Originally Posted by Waps1980

Are you for real, trade TP to the Lakers for Bynum (don't get me wrong Bynum would be awesome for the Spurs) but TP to the Lakers would be very bad.
Where do the Lakers struggle PG and PG speed give them Tony and they'll have the best starting 5 in the comp.

Talent does not equal championships, and even than its hard to predict how Parker would fit their offense with his lack of outside shooting and Kobe dominating the ball so much. Plus Bynum would be missed, he's underrated...not to mention the fact that inserting Odom into the starting line-up would make their already pathetic bench that much weaker.

Originally Posted by senorglory

That would be awesome, then we'd have injured and unable to play/ barely able to play at spots 1, 2, 4, and 5! Jefferson would be the Spurs' star, as our only starter able to take the court. If only we could also keep our eye open for a 3 that rarely takes the court, too.

Because Parker is always playing 82 games a season right? Besides this thing with Bynum is overblown, the guy had two seperate significant injuries that were non-related and now because of that after every minor injury people make a big deal out of it. This notion that he's made of glass is overrated, similar to Manu who up until last season had played 70+ games per season and hadnt missed a single playoff game.

**G-Dawgg** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by Waps1980

With Parker time has told Manu isn't what he can be.
Its like he holds back cos Tony needs to run things.

manu, and jefferson and blair and..........

**jag** · 04-10-2010

I hate new spurs "fans" more than i hate Lakers "fans."

**jimo2305** · 04-10-2010

facto the matter is.. if we're gonna trade parker.. nows the time..

i mean.. honestly i didn't watch the game so i can't speak much on the issue but.. hill's coming of his own.. pop's system isn't a cakewalk.. so u can't just bring in any pg into our system.. i don't care even if it's chris paul..

but the only thing that irks me about parker is his shooting and the whole french national team thing..

sucks what playing basketball 365 days a year can do to you huh..

**FkLA** · 04-10-2010

I hate Parker fanboys that are blinded by loyalty. I hate it even more that instead of actually analyzing the situation at hand they resort to calling people that are in favor of shipping Parker "idiots" or "sorry fans".

**Cry Havoc** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by FkLA

I hate Parker fanboys that are blinded by loyalty. I hate it even more that instead of actually analyzing the situation at hand they resort to calling people that are in favor of shipping Parker "idiots" or "sorry fans".

I hate the moronic, asinine Parker haters who conveniently ignore every stat or legitimate point made in the discussion to talk about how "THEY KNOW" that Parker is the cancer that's killing this team, not the fact that Duncan has been struggling in the 2nd half, or that Manu wasn't even our 3rd best player for most of the season. I hate that they (you) think they can list a single stat or clumsily recite a tired mechanic OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, and because their idiotic ass said it 15,000 times and got it backed by 27 other 14 year old morons who have never played basketball past junior high that they think, somehow, that their Manu Ginobili avataring, French hating, "pure" point guard touting, George Hill fellatio-ing, Forrest Gump rivaling basketball I.Q. is somewhat valuable or verified. It isn't. You're still a moron.

Shut.

THE .

UP.

WE GET IT. You think Parker sucks. You state nothing new with each successive post except to talk about how Manu is better than God. Shut. Up.

**Mal** · 04-10-2010

WTF is with this guy ? How such guy could make a bad influence.

Same with Paul. Hornets were playin better without him. Weird, but true.

**senorglory** · 04-10-2010

If you do not like Parker, you are not a Spurs fan. You are perhaps a Lakers fan. Try the Lakers forum, quit yelling at us.

**Shaolin-Style** · 04-10-2010

I like parker, but I think he needs to make some adjustments to help keep us at the high level of play we've had recently in his absence and Pop is the one who has to recognize how to get him gelling with the team.

No use in trading him unless it's a really good deal, cause he's a really good player.

**spursrocks** · 04-10-2010

i like parker but i like george hill better. i want george to start and tony leading the 2nd unit. im also open to trading for parker for a younger big next to tim. does that make me a parker hater and fake spurs fan?
well anyway, just let the FO decide this offseason if trading parker would be good for the organization.
if the FO decides to trade parker, maybe RC and POP are parker haters.(just kidding)
some of us here are spurs fans since drafting david robinson, we are not new spurs fans, we are old spurs fans but.. new spurstalk users.
we are all en led to our opinion, no hating towards fellow spurs fans. its just a matter of what we believe is best for our team, some believe parker is a factor for championship then so be it. some dont.
its still the FO decision what to do in the offseason. maybe or maybe suddenly the FO just got lebron for us.(ok thats way out of line)
peace bros

**spursrocks** · 04-10-2010

its just some of us believe that george is ready to take charge next season even without parker, that was proven when parker got injured when we won games with hill and gino at the backcourt.(beating cleveland, boston, orlando and lakers)
so trading parker for a young good athletic big would be a good upgrade for spurs organization.
some believe that a healthy parker, ginobli and duncan can still win us championship next year or the next. but in my opinion, it will be harder every year coz.
1st. duncan is aging(thats why trading parker for a great big would be great)
2nd gino is also aging
3rd tony parker is still young but he is going 28-29, and joining international games could wore him out
4th the west is getting stronger and younger! its not adviceable for us to stick with our aging line up
if trading for a new all star player, now is the time or else we will be stuck with our old big 3, (bust trade), dice(old guy), bonner(his not horry). fortunately we have 2 young future spurs stars hill and blair.
but hill and blair is not enough.

**gilmor** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by spursrocks

its just some of us believe that george is ready to take charge next season even without parker, that was proven when parker got injured when we won games with hill and gino at the backcourt.(beating cleveland, boston, orlando and lakers)
so trading parker for a young good athletic big would be a good upgrade for spurs organization.
some believe that a healthy parker, ginobli and duncan can still win us championship next year or the next. but in my opinion, it will be harder every year coz.
1st. duncan is aging(thats why trading parker for a great big would be great)
2nd gino is also aging
3rd tony parker is still young but he is going 28-29, and joining international games could wore him out
4th the west is getting stronger and younger! its not adviceable for us to stick with our aging line up
if trading for a new all star player, now is the time or else we will be stuck with our old big 3, (bust trade), dice(old guy), bonner(his not horry). fortunately we have 2 young future spurs stars hill and blair.
but hill and blair is not enough.

That's the reason why your reasoning of trading parker will win us championship makes no sense.

All 3 of them have been burnt out some how after all these years and 3 championships. Trading any one of them to the compe ion will not make Spurs an instant champion with the remaining two aging all-stars.

Spurs is due for a make-over. All 3 or any 2 of them will need to go to make ways for new blood. Trading any 1 of the 3 will not make matters that much better. Accept it and no.. Spurs will not win any championship this year.

**WalterBenitez** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by FalleNxWiZarDx

Dont get me wrong, your are correct when it comes to getting his team moving through passing, cutting, moving without the ball only to receive the ball to then pass to an open shooter or cutter

Parker was doing this during yalls Prime Times.....

But last year it seem that you guys didnt have anybody who could score the ball, and Parker had to simply Dominate...

This year is different, and he has to simply adjust to it... injuries dont help him either

If healthy, Parker is TOP 3 Point guards in the NBA, give him time to gell with his new teamates.... let him get back into game shape

I do agree, adjustment is the key, for the record I'd like to see Hill running the team more minutes.

I can't see SPurs trading TP unless for a superstar caliber boy.

**WalterBenitez** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by _JaG

I hate new spurs "fans" more than i hate Lakers "fans."

Newcomers, yeap, but man Lakers fans, Mavs fans are in another category

**temujin** · 04-10-2010

PArker has a lot o NBA mileage and obviously lost most of his speed.
And when these type of players slow down, they are essentially done.

His shooting range is still limited.
He has been a HUGE liability on defense all season long.

I am not suprised that the best Spurs basketball came when he was out.

-17 last night.

It does actually make a lot of sense trading Parker in the ofseason.

**oski1000** · 04-10-2010

TRADE PARKER!!! BRING A CENTER...HILL-MANU are the best team for us.

**Brazil** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by shingo_318

thank you you hospitable french, parker's guardian angel

you're welcome shingo ! always a pleasure: the board needs your clever posts.

for the record I'm not a parker's guardian angel, I have no problem to see him off the bench and I have no problem if the spurs think it's better trading him same for Manu btw. Nevertheless I do think since he is playing for the spurs since 19 years old with 3 rings, he earned the right to be treated fairly which it is obviously not the case.

**Lady M** · 04-10-2010

I'm a TP fan and I want the spurs trade TP
and see all the haters cry because they miss TP

**peskypesky** · 04-10-2010

i respect Tony's skills. he's awesome. but please trade him for a good center, Spurs!!

**Aggie Hoopsfan** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by gilmor

That's the reason why your reasoning of trading parker will win us championship makes no sense.

All 3 of them have been burnt out some how after all these years and 3 championships. Trading any one of them to the compe ion will not make Spurs an instant champion with the remaining two aging all-stars.

Spurs is due for a make-over. All 3 or any 2 of them will need to go to make ways for new blood. Trading any 1 of the 3 will not make matters that much better. Accept it and no.. Spurs will not win any championship this year.

The issue is Tony continues to play for France every summer, with injuries hitting him the following NBA season (or sometimes during the summer, and carrying over to the NBA season).

If he's not going to commit to the organization paying him $15 million a year, it shouldn't commit to him.

**SpuronyourFace** · 04-10-2010

Trading TP just a stupid idea.

**Parker2112** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by _JaG

I hate new spurs "fans" more than i hate Lakers "fans."

How can you tell on a forum? Are all long-standing Spurs fans die hard Tony fans? This is the type of arrogance that drives Parker-haters into a frenzy...if you hate the effect, get off the pedestal

Just like there are long-standing Cowboys fans that think Romo needs to be sacked, just like there are long-standing Eagles fans that thought McNabb should have been cut a long time ago, it happens.

Get used to the idea that other Spurs fans may disagree with you without acting on your compelling need to try and discredit them or undermine their credibility with ignorant assumptions.

**Fpoonsie** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by tothrowed

my first post on this site was about how parker messes up the chemistry and yall dumbass said i was stupid well yall see now......

I'm almost POSITIVE our take on your intelligence had nothing to do w/ YOUR take on Parker.

**poop** · 04-10-2010

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

I hate the moronic, asinine Parker haters who conveniently ignore every stat or legitimate point made in the discussion to talk about how "THEY KNOW" that Parker is the cancer that's killing this team, not the fact that Duncan has been struggling in the 2nd half, or that Manu wasn't even our 3rd best player for most of the season. I hate that they (you) think they can list a single stat or clumsily recite a tired mechanic OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, and because their idiotic ass said it 15,000 times and got it backed by 27 other 14 year old morons who have never played basketball past junior high that they think, somehow, that their Manu Ginobili avataring, French hating, "pure" point guard touting, George Hill fellatio-ing, Forrest Gump rivaling basketball I.Q. is somewhat valuable or verified. It isn't. You're still a moron.

Shut.

THE .

UP.

WE GET IT. You think Parker sucks. You state nothing new with each successive post except to talk about how Manu is better than God. Shut. Up.

epic meltdown haha.

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