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    Even in his previous job, Tiago only averaged about 10pts a game. He's never been a big scorer. I think he averaged 12 charges though.

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    Even in his previous job, Tiago only averaged about 10pts a game. He's never been a big scorer. I think he averaged 12 charges though.
    Nah he has always been a really good offensive player ... His per 40 minue scoring numbers in the ACB and Euroleague since he turned 22

    24.9 PPG
    20.7 PPG
    22.7 PPG
    21.4 PPG
    22.4 PPG
    19.5 PPG

    His offensive game is alot better than ppl are giving him credit for .. As Harlem pointed out. I expect his post numbers to improve also .. Part of the adjustment was adjusting to the size and strength of defenders in the league .. It's hard to do that and get any rythim when ur playing 5 minutes a night with Chris Quinn as your point guard.

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    I think the phrase "numbers don't lie" only applies to scoreboard.

    Otherwise, they very well can be misleading.

    My eyes tell me this guy can play. If he finds his confidence this season, we are going to be a much better team and matchup-wise a real-deal contender.

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    I was actually referring to his FIBA numbers when I said "previous job". He doesn't dominate when playing against solid teams. I suppose 20pts a game is higher for Euro league than it would be for the NBA where 30ppg is the scoring le mark it seems.

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    Nah he has always been a really good offensive player ... His per 40 minue scoring numbers in the ACB and Euroleague since he turned 22

    24.9 PPG
    20.7 PPG
    22.7 PPG
    21.4 PPG
    22.4 PPG
    19.5 PPG

    His offensive game is alot better than ppl are giving him credit for .. As Harlem pointed out. I expect his post numbers to improve also .. Part of the adjustment was adjusting to the size and strength of defenders in the league .. It's hard to do that and get any rythim when ur playing 5 minutes a night with Chris Quinn as your point guard.
    Per 40 minute scoring average will be higher for every player in the league even scrub players can have good looking Per 40 minute scoring averages, so those numbers are misleading.

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    There are some people here in Brazilian media there are complaining about Tiago lack of minutes. One of them is Fabio Sormani and he posted on his blog he had a long conversation with Tiago spokesman Marcelo Maffia

    He said Maffia told it's everything going as planned and remembered Manu playing time as a rookie was also growing month after month. He said Tiago would like to play more but he understand the situation and know his opportunity will be there in the future

    Maffia said Pop is a great person and everybody likes him. Said he saw Pop at a restaurant once and after a few minutes the waiter came to his table and said: Here's a wine, courtesy from Mr Popovich. He couldn't believe, said it was a great and expensive wine, then latter he went to paid the bill and they said Pop had pay.

    Here the link and article in Portuguese:

    http://colunistas.ig.com.br/fabiosormani/

    Bati um longo papo por telefone esta manhã com Marcelo Maffia. Maffia, pra quem não sabe, é assessor de imprensa de Tiago Splitter.

    Fui atrás do jundiaiense porque estou intrigado — como muitos de vocês — com a situação do catarinense no time texano. Mas Maffia tranquilizou-me.

    “Não se preocupe, Sormani, está tudo sendo feito de acordo com o que foi projetado para o Tiago”, afirmou Maffia. “Pop é assim mesmo. Foi assim com todos os jogadores que chegaram à franquia. Foi assim com Ginobili também, você não se lembra?”.

    Maffia tem uma grande admiração por Pop. Contou-me ele que certa vez, em um restaurante de San Antonio, estava jantando e avistou o treinador. Trocaram acenos. De repente, chegou uma garrafa do melhor vinho da casa à mesa de Maffia. “Cortesia do Sr. Popovich”, disse o garçom. “Numa outra vez, quando fui pagar a conta, Pop já tinha pagado tudo”, disse Maffia.

    Pop é assim, garantiu-me o assessor de imprensa de Tiago. Todos gostam muito dele. “Pop tem formação militar, é linha dura, sabe se impor. Mas é um doce de pessoa”, garantiu.

    Tiago está afinado com o projeto, seguiu falando-me, ao telefone. Mas ele não gostaria de estar jogando mais?, perguntei a ele. “Sim, gostaria, mas ele sabe que é assim mesmo”, respondeu.

    E o restante de nosso colóquio seguiu nesta direção, com Maffia garantindo-me que tudo que Pop faz é pelo bem do jogador.

    Então, como diz meu amigo Freddy Jr., vamos aguardar.

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    Excellent post HHeat!

    I think he'll be a rotation necessity if the Spurs are to get past the Lakers and probably against the Mavs, too. I have high hopes for him.

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    Per 40 minute scoring average will be higher for every player in the league even scrub players can have good looking Per 40 minute scoring averages, so those numbers are misleading.
    Nah..not at all really. Nothing wrong with extrapolating to 40 minute numbers if the guy is playing 30 minutes a night .. Especially if it's due to the games being shorter as is the case in Europe.

    You might have a point if a guy is playing 10 minutes a night.

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    FTW..

    Nice Thread... Harlem Heat Baby

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    Josh McRoberts................................Tiago Splitter
    Indiana........................................... San Antonio
    Position: Forward..............................Position: Forward/Center
    Height: 6-10 Weight: 240..................Height: 6-11 Weight: 240
    College: Duke...................................From: Blumenau, Brazil
    Player file | Team stats......................Player file | Team stats

    2010-11 Statistics............................2010-11 Statistics
    PPG 6.9...........................................PPG 4.5
    RPG 6.0...........................................RPG 2.5
    APG 2.3...........................................APG 0.5
    SPG 0.9...........................................SPG 0.4
    BPG 1.1...........................................BPG 0.3
    FG% 0.476.......................................FG% 0.508
    FT% 0.656.......................................FT% 0.591
    3P% 0.405.......................................3P% 0.000
    MPG 23.2.........................................MPG 11.7

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    Guess I'll have to catch a pacer game, this McRoberts kid looks pretty good by the numbers.

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    ^ Decent,...but is averaging 12 more MPG than TSplit. It is coming time to where even I will question Splitters PT maybe....Hopefully he develops into more of a factor within the next 20 games or so. Either way we are doing well now & I hope that continues. Just have to trust our players & Pop. I assume they know what they are doing.

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    Have to wonder how many pts splitter would avg. with duncan"s minutes, since Splitter, like Scola, can't play next to duncan.

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    Josh McRoberts................................Tiago Splitter
    Indiana........................................... San Antonio
    Position: Forward..............................Position: Forward/Center
    Height: 6-10 Weight: 240..................Height: 6-11 Weight: 240
    College: Duke...................................From: Blumenau, Brazil
    Player file | Team stats......................Player file | Team stats

    2010-11 Statistics............................2010-11 Statistics
    PPG 6.9...........................................PPG 4.5
    RPG 6.0...........................................RPG 2.5
    APG 2.3...........................................APG 0.5
    SPG 0.9...........................................SPG 0.4
    BPG 1.1...........................................BPG 0.3
    FG% 0.476.......................................FG% 0.508
    FT% 0.656.......................................FT% 0.591
    3P% 0.405.......................................3P% 0.000
    MPG 23.2.........................................MPG 11.7

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    Ya know, if we are looking for future Bonner replacements, there's a number there that really sticks out. 17 of 42 (which is twice as many 3's as he took all last year). He's currently on the minimum. I'd certainly consider him as a cheap big to pick up in the offseason. The LLE would probably do it, and I think he might fit in pretty well.

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    Ya know, if we are looking for future Bonner replacements, there's a number there that really sticks out.
    "Bonner replacement." That's a phrase I never expected to hear.

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    lol Pacers.

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    Have to wonder how many pts splitter would avg. with duncan"s minutes, since Splitter, like Scola, can't play next to duncan.
    LOL that was a good one. Splitter will have his chance.
    I just hope it´s soon enough so that he´s able to play by playoff time, when Bonner starts whooting 20% from 3.

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    lol Toros

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    Inside joke with Bruno....or maybe, not so inside.

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    "Bonner replacement." That's a phrase I never expected to hear.
    "Horry replacement" is a not happening.

    but I would love to replace & upgrade Bonner. McRoberts is not the shooter Bonner is, but he looks decent so far this year. He has been improving significantly over his time in the NBA. He is much more atheltic, and has much better presence on the floor. He's nowhere near the defensive liability. Also, McRoberts is also a really decent and willing passer. His career ast% is 13.3 (by comparison, TD is 16.7% career, Bonner at 6.3%, Dyess at 8.1%, Horry retired at 12.8%...).

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