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    The beginning of a pedophile act? Are you ing kidding me?! He didn't actually sing it to the children. It was edited to make it look this way to create shock value...which worked. The kids weren't hurt. The kids have probably seen worse on tv, and now their ridiculous parents want to ruin his life because of a prank for youtube?

    Actually, to be perfectly ing honest, if kids were to come here to SpursTalk they would probably be exposed to much more harmful material than this. Should all the trolls here be brought up of criminal charges as well?
    First, the law doesn't work on a preventive basis. It only works on a punishment basis. Otherwise lots of TRO deaths would never have happened, lots of abused kids would not be abused, all that.

    For some reason this dogma exists that there is absolute in-culpability for things posted online, as if the internet is a role playing game. Little by little they are discovering that it's real life and you can be arrested for your actions here too.

    The guy broke the law. He probably wasn't aware of it, but that's never been a good excuse (never accepted as one). Had he known he was breaking laws, he probably would not have posted it.

    He's a moron, plain and simple, and he didn't care that millions of people would see that classroom full of kids and what he was appearing to say in their presence.

    Makes you wonder how people like that ever expect to get a decent job.

    Also, it has nothing to do with parents wanting to wreck his life. In these cases the state undoubtedly files charges. It might even be federal in this case. If so he's screwed. The parents couldn't just have him arrested over outrage. They could sue in a civil court, but he's facing criminal charges. Crimes against kids are pretty hard to defend. There are a few child sex offenders living in my neighborhood, a couple were 18 and dating a 15 year old. They got married later, but still have that charge.
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    Hyperbole obviously (to most).

    Still, the point is valid. The liberalism you experienced as a kid goes away for the most part as an adult. You are no longer immune from the laws that mom and dad had to follow while you were growing up.
    I wasn't taking your hyperbole literally, but just the whole "make an example out of em" mentality is beyond ed up

    So?

    Should it be ok for some dude to peep into your kid's windows at night and jerk off? They won't know about it.

    Not trying to play the age card, but in the kid's world, fairness is an individual concept. This is fair, that's not fair, blah blah blah... As an adult, you learn that there is indeed a system of laws and what seemed fair as a kid was really just what made you happy. To live in a society, everyone's well being has to be considered, and laws are supposed to do that.
    Well gosh darn I'm sure gonna sleep well tonight knowing this rapist.. no....pedophi..no....peeping t..no....college aged kid who edits harmless stupid videos is standing accused for offending people.

    Write your congressman and about it. ing online isn't going to do anything but, once again, make you feel better.
    Why would I do that? I think child porn is ed up. Which is why this whole mess is ed up for what it's not

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    I wasn't taking your hyperbole literally, but just the whole "make an example out of em" mentality is beyond ed up
    If you consider that they could be very literal with the law and arrest everyone, or just publicize one person being arrested for it and see how it works, it's actually more liberal than the alternative.
    Well gosh darn I'm sure gonna sleep well tonight knowing this rapist.. no....pedophi..no....peeping t..no....college aged kid who edits harmless stupid videos is standing accused for offending people.
    Don't be lulled into a stupor by the age of the guy. Sure he's just a re trying to be creative, but what if your wedding videographer took footage of you and your wife and edited in all kinds of nasty things, then posted it, without your approval, on youtube. Now factor in your kids. If you have neither you might not understand.

    Why would I do that? I think child porn is ed up. Which is why this whole mess is ed up for what it's not
    He's not being tried for what it's not.

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    If you consider that they could be very literal with the law and arrest everyone, or just publicize one person being arrested for it and see how it works, it's actually more liberal than the alternative.

    Don't be lulled into a stupor by the age of the guy. Sure he's just a re trying to be creative, but what if your wedding videographer took footage of you and your wife and edited in all kinds of nasty things, then posted it, without your approval, on youtube. Now factor in your kids. If you have neither you might not understand.

    He's not being tried for what it's not.
    However you spin it, the law is ed up on this decision. A harmless prank that ends up offending some parents. All the guy did was cuss. The kids didn't even see him cuss. It's ing ridiculous and you should know that if you have a brain. This isn't the Soviet Union. Freedom of Speech should be allowed.

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    However you spin it, the law is ed up on this decision. A harmless prank that ends up offending some parents. All the guy did was cuss. The kids didn't even see him cuss. It's ing ridiculous and you should know that if you have a brain. This isn't the Soviet Union. Freedom of Speech should be allowed.
    You are dismissing my input by calling it spin. It's anything but.

    You either don't understand English, or you don't understand the law, or you are just a bonehead.

    The guy broke laws. The authority having jurisdiction in this case isn't the parents. It's like saying an assault victim was the one who caused the offender to be prosecuted. The guy broke the law, plain and simple. The parents don't have strings to the court that allow them to make these things happen.

    Stop shouting out the Bill of Rights when you obviously have no idea what they mean. Freedom of speech isn't a shield against responsibility for your actions. You cannot stand up in a crowded theater and yell "fire!" for example. Slander is another example where your "freedom" invades mine. Freedoms do not enable you to violate other people's freedoms. Even the 2nd Amendment has limitations. I cannot carry a handgun legally into a public school. That doesn't violate my 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

    If anyone knows how to interpret the BoR, it would be the courts. If this court gets it wrong, the next one will have a go and maybe up to the USSC if they want to hear it.

    Way to ignore my questions however.
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    I can believe Wild Cobra would love this prosecution.
    I rather expected the dumb to be in favor of it. I've yet to see him on the sensible side of any argument...

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    Anyone that believes that kid deserves any jail time should really think about attending a physician to remove the rather large tree trunk up their uptight ass. Jesus...

    I'm all for protecting the children, but paranoid s who get carried away and demand this sort of are a hundred times more dangerous than a dumb kid with an awful sense of humor and poor judgment.

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    Anyone that believes that kid deserves any jail time should really think about attending a physician to remove the rather large tree trunk up their uptight ass. Jesus...

    I'm all for protecting the children, but paranoid s who get carried away and demand this sort of are a hundred times more dangerous than a dumb kid with an awful sense of humor and poor judgment.
    Talk to the judge, the prosecuting attorney, the DA's office, maybe a few more.

    It's not about deserving. It's about the law. If he doesn't deserve it, he won't get it. You guys are defending someone who did something you find funny, something you might do yourself if you had the ability, so you are in essence defending your own.

    20 years? No. No one even gets that for child molestation. He will get a pretty good fine and not be allowed into a public school or even near it for quite some time, and may be registered as a child sex offender.

    The catch might be that there were several kids, so it could be compounded.

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    Talk to the judge, the prosecuting attorney, the DA's office, maybe a few more.

    It's not about deserving. It's about the law. If he doesn't deserve it, he won't get it. You guys are defending someone who did something you find funny, something you might do yourself if you had the ability, so you are in essence defending your own.

    20 years? No. No one even gets that for child molestation. He will get a pretty good fine and not be allowed into a public school or even near it for quite some time, and may be registered as a child sex offender.

    The catch might be that there were several kids, so it could be compounded.
    I don't find it funny, but I still don't think the punishment fits the "crime." The guy is essentially facing 20 years (not saying he'll get it) and being forced to register as a sex offender because of some video editing.

    Get off your high horse. He's not a ing pedophile. He's a stupid kid with poor sense of humor.

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    I don't find it funny, but I still don't think the punishment fits the "crime." The guy is essentially facing 20 years (not saying he'll get it) and being forced to register as a sex offender because of some video editing.

    Get off your high horse. He's not a ing pedophile. He's a stupid kid with poor sense of humor.
    What kind of a ing hammer is needed to drive this into the thick ass skulls of some of you? There's been NO PUNISHMENT. Wait to see what they give him.

    How do you know he's not a pedophile? His act maybe didn't cons ute pedophilia, but that doesn't mean he isn't one.

    Is this guy related to you, or maybe this case threatens all the ass grabbery you and your cohorts do for a past time?

    WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN. Tell him you are butthurt over this pedo.. errr... nice young man who was just being silly.

    LOL "get off your hight horse" translates to "stop being an adult here".

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    I want to ask a question. Can he be charged with, say 20 counts of slander ( or one for each of the kids in this video however many there are). I don't know how that would shake out punishment-wise, but wouldn't this seem to be the more appropriate charge? I wouldn't want him to get a sex-crimes conviction on his record for this, but I do think he should be punished.

    Edit: My understanding of legal charges is, admittedly, lacking, so maybe I am saying the wrong thing.

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    You are dismissing my input by calling it spin. It's anything but.

    You either don't understand English, or you don't understand the law, or you are just a bonehead.

    The guy broke laws. The authority having jurisdiction in this case isn't the parents. It's like saying an assault victim was the one who caused the offender to be prosecuted. The guy broke the law, plain and simple. The parents don't have strings to the court that allow them to make these things happen.

    Stop shouting out the Bill of Rights when you obviously have no idea what they mean. Freedom of speech isn't a shield against responsibility for your actions. You cannot stand up in a crowded theater and yell "fire!" for example. Slander is another example where your "freedom" invades mine. Freedoms do not enable you to violate other people's freedoms. Even the 2nd Amendment has limitations. I cannot carry a handgun legally into a public school. That doesn't violate my 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

    If anyone knows how to interpret the BoR, it would be the courts. If this court gets it wrong, the next one will have a go and maybe up to the USSC if they want to hear it.

    Way to ignore my questions however.
    The guy broke the law according to its very vague and broad interpretation by one prosecutor.

    I give this case a s chance in a hurricaine of a conviction.

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    now that's a

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    DMC got banned from the website.

    Wonder what his views on punishments are now

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    ..and so are you it appears

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    If MiamiHeat was banned, why does he still have his colors and why can he be messaged? Sounds like bull to me.

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    pff, what is going on here? Everyone getting banned all of a sudden

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    pff, what is going on here? Everyone getting banned all of a sudden
    I don't think MH was really banned. He just changed his caption in..."honor" of recent events.

    Edit: Or , maybe he WAS banned (prolly not for long, though). Not sure. Didn't see any posts of his that were particularly outta line. [shrug]

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    pff, what is going on here? Everyone getting banned all of a sudden
    Unknown. It may have something to do with the NBA forum brew-ha-ha, but that is pure speculation on my part.

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    I don't think MH was really banned. He just changed his caption in..."honor" of recent events.
    That was another thought. Good joke, IMO, simply due to being a bit clever, if so.

    They didn't get "pinked" which is a standard punishment for baggery above and beyond the call of duty.

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    http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14257259

    "I feel it's fair," said Charles Willick, whose daughter was in the video Emory created. "It doesn't warrant 20 years, I understand that."
    Another parent who attended Monday's court hearing said Emory is getting off with too light of a punishment.

    "It was vile," said Stephen man, who said his daughters have had to see a doctor because of the video. "It was sexual and he should be put on the sex offender registry."
    Stephen man, the 2nd parnet in the quote, is a ing fraud artist. It's been well reported that the kid didn't perform the song in front of the children, so how could his kids need to see a dr? There's a video of that made on MSNBC but I can't post it cuz their is a pain in the ass to deal with.

    Anyway, 60 days is a lot too, but whatever. I'm just pissed that parent is milking the ing cat on this . Parents can be idiots.

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    http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14257259



    Stephen man, the 2nd parnet in the quote, is a ing fraud artist. It's been well reported that the kid didn't perform the song in front of the children, so how could his kids need to see a dr? There's a video of that made on MSNBC but I can't post it cuz their is a pain in the ass to deal with.

    Anyway, 60 days is a lot too, but whatever. I'm just pissed that parent is milking the ing cat on this . Parents can be idiots.
    A waste of jail space for 60 days tbh.


    I can't really put into words how annoyed I am at these overreacting parents. Thanks SB, you got my blood boiling right before I go to bed

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    you Stephen man.

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    anyone know where i can see the original video?

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