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    Apparently TP got my email and decided to play the exact opposite tonight
    email him every time we get worried... he's gonna need to play like his 07 MVP self, especially with Manu and TJ out.

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    Shouldn't the thread le be "What *Ails* Tony Parker?"

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    Apparently TP got my email and decided to play the exact opposite tonight
    You were saying?

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    Of course his stats are down. More than ever teams are collapsing on Tony because there is almost nothing else around him capable of driving the lane. Tony has never been this isolated as a creator for the offense at any point for extended games in his career. In the past when Manu has been out he's had George Hill and a better Duncan. That isn't the case now.

    The fact that Tony is doing the same on the defensive end should show you that he hasn't lost a step.

    Correlation does not mean causation.

    Also, Tony's still getting to the rim. He's not being stopped by defenders on his way there. He's missed a few gimmies here and there, but for the most part I think the defenses are keying on Tony first and foremost.

    PS DPG will be wacking it to this thread
    You mad? Why does it bother you so much that everything I said, Timvp said? I didn't hate on TP. I didn't say trade him. I made an observation and now you are butthurt because like I said Timvp would back me up ?

    It sucks for the Spurs and I'm not celebrating it, but a simple "I was wrong about what you said DPG" would suffice.

    Tony isn't getting to the rim. At all. Your observation is incorrect. Even with declining athleticism, you still will have some nights where you look good (even Vince Carter mashes it every once and a while).

    TP was able to get to the rim at will just a year or so ago with no Manu and a declining Duncan, so that logic doesn't explain it. Good news is it could just be rust and he shakes it off, but like I said before the early signs point to a player who's declined physically.

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    I believe in coasting, but when a team needs wins with their best player out no one "choses" to decline in every single category offensively. Sorry.

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    I believe in coasting, but when a team needs wins with their best player out no one "choses" to decline in every single category offensively. Sorry.
    Maybe you should look at the stats again. Unless you don't know what every single category means.

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    You mad? Why does it bother you so much that everything I said, Timvp said? I didn't hate on TP. I didn't say trade him. I made an observation and now you are butthurt because like I said Timvp would back me up ?

    It sucks for the Spurs and I'm not celebrating it, but a simple "I was wrong about what you said DPG" would suffice.

    Tony isn't getting to the rim. At all. Your observation is incorrect. Even with declining athleticism, you still will have some nights where you look good (even Vince Carter mashes it every once and a while).

    TP was able to get to the rim at will just a year or so ago with no Manu and a declining Duncan, so that logic doesn't explain it. Good news is it could just be rust and he shakes it off, but like I said before the early signs point to a player who's declined physically.
    all butthurt? What exactly shows that I'm butthurt?

    TP sure looked like he had declined tonight. Sure had trouble getting to the rim tonight.

    In any event, I prefer the Tony that gets more assists and takes fewer shots and then takes over in the fourth even if that means you guys automatically go to the decline card because tonight we saw the Parker you've been clamoring for and in the end it was a negative.

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    Watching the past three games more closely than I watched the previous games in the season, my guess is that there's something wrong with Tony's back (in addition to his shoulder, if that's what he said).

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    Maybe you should look at the stats again. Unless you don't know what every single category means.
    Did you see the numbers I told you about that Timvp posted in this thread? Whenever you lose an argument to me (which is becoming more and more frequent) you resort to semantics. Do you think I literally meant "every single category" or was I implying, as the stats posted show, that in most every major area of offense TP has dramatically declined to date?

    all butthurt? What exactly shows that I'm butthurt?

    TP sure looked like he had declined tonight. Sure had trouble getting to the rim tonight.

    In any event, I prefer the Tony that gets more assists and takes fewer shots and then takes over in the fourth even if that means you guys automatically go to the decline card because tonight we saw the Parker you've been clamoring for and in the end it was a negative.
    What shows you are butthurt ? How about the fact I didn't post in this thread and you bring me up out of no where because you do what you typically do (call people morons and argue semantics and say stupid even when people back up what they say with statistical evidence while you wow us with what your amazing basketball mind "see's with your own eyes").

    How stupid is it to cling to one game? Really? Even you have to know that is stupid but it's your stubbornness and unwillingness to say "I shouldn't have mocked what you said, even though I don't agree because the numbers do back up what you told me". By your logic, I could mock the out of you by saying "Well man, I guess it looks like Tim's wheels have fallen off with this game huh bro ". Do you see how stupid that is?

    Just because a guy has one good game with regards to what has been ailing him to date, doesn't erase everything before. Most would say Vince Carter has declined physically, but you still see him have games where his legs look great. I'm not saying TP is at that stage, never did. I simply said I saw the numbers and watched him play and it was alarming enough to speak about. You scoffed me for that.

    LMAO at saying we got the Parker we have been clamoring for . That is the TP we've had our entire lives. And you are also trying to say that because TP looked better physically tonight than he has that it's the reason they lost.

    You have some good takes, but you look really silly with some of your arguments and yes, you do appear butthurt since I called you out on it.

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    Out of no where? YOU posted on my freaking profile and I'm the butthurt one. WOW.

    Ok, DPG. I'm butthurt and you're right. I'm done going in useless circles with you.

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    tbh I don't see what AIDS and the popcorn reaction to AIDS have to do with this legitimate thread tbhbhhbhhbh h hh hh hh h h

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    Out of no where? YOU posted on my freaking profile and I'm the butthurt one. WOW.

    Ok, DPG. I'm butthurt and you're right. I'm done going in useless circles with you.
    I posted on your profile last night laughing as a joke. Right after we argued about it. You posted in this thread (a serious thread that backed up what you argued with me about) out of no where when you and I hadn't spoken.

    You are butthurt because Timvp (like I told you would happen) backed up what I said. The only one going in useless circles is you. You acted like a and tried to be condescending towards me for having this take on TP. Are you calling Timvp an "over-reactor" and is his thread "pointless to discuss" because it's just days after I said it and you scoffed me for it? But now that people are agreeing with me, you want to be done even though you felt enough need to post in this thread and give your "take" even though it was the same damn thing I brought up. Funny.

    You are normally fine, but I think you fail to realize how you come off in situations like this. It's ok to disagree with the opinion, but when someone has a legit take you shouldn't go into message board mode and scoff and act y about it if you don't like getting called out.

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    Anybody watching the Clippers? Chauncy Billups is 6 years older than Parker, and coming off a groin injury. And he would run circles around Tony, too.

    I don't know what the I was thinking. Parker isn't so old and worn out that he can't perform. Bull .

    Bull , bull , bull . He's either nursing an injury, or his head isn't in it. And I don't think he's injured.

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    Well, the good news tonight is that Parker didn't look like he was declining physically. His burst and everything was there. He was able to get the basket and looked extra quick at times.

    The bad news is he left his brain in OKC.

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    Well, the good news tonight is that Parker didn't look like he was declining physically. His burst and everything was there. He was able to get the basket and looked extra quick at times.

    The bad news is he left his brain in OKC.
    I'm gonna disagree and why are you hating?, tbh

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    Yes, he looked very good tonight and the best thing would be he is starting to shake off whatever rust he had. I hope to see this speed be the norm and not a rare occurrence. Spurs need him badly.

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    dbags..

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    Shouldn't the thread le be "What *Ails* Tony Parker?"
    Shiii--ii-i-iii, you right. Thanks, good catch.

    Apparently I left my brain in OKC too.

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    I believe that TP has rapidly declined physically over the past year. He is still really good, but not elite unless he can overcome the physical decline in other ways. I don't know if he can since his game relies largely on speed and quickness both of which are bound to take a major hit right around 29-30. He is not a great passer, nor as smart as players like Manu and Kidd. So this doesn't look good.

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    I think because of the shortened season plus compression of games, that the coach has made it a point for him to use his jump shot to limit his punishment on the way to the rim.

    They tried doing that to Manu in the past, and it makes some sense, with the way the team has scoring from other contributors(depth), that TP needn't try to be Finals MVP TP in game 10.

    I see burst and I see speed. It's intellect that fails TP at times, often the most critical, but it's that kind of pressure that has made Big Balls Parker play big WHEN IT COUNTS MOST.

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    He misses Eva

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    I think he's "coasting", nothing more...

    As Timvp said, TP showed that he didn't lose THAT much of his physical abilties, we can all agree that lest night was more mental than anything.

    He is not in "PO mode", not "a la" Robert Horry, but almost, he is now a veteran and knows it's gonna be a long, tiresome reg season.

    + Apprently his shoulder is injured

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    Mike Conley's ripped his confidence away?

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