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    I'd rather see the spurs try and pry Frye away from the Suns with a combo of bonner and fillers. Suns might do it because bonner's contract would be shorter and Frye possibly out of favor in phoenix. Pop would get a player to spread the floor and maybe hit a shot in the playoffs.

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    Frye is terrible. He's had one good season and IMO is no better than Matt.

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    Frye is terrible. He's had one good season and IMO is no better than Matt.
    why is he terrible? He might be overpaid (hard to say with $ bigs get) but he's a 39% 3pt career shooter and his stats are definitely better than bonner's. He might fit better in the spurs' system than the suns' - I don't see him as much risk for the $ and 20 mpg.

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    Sheridan is an idiot. There's no way NO takes on RJ's contract, so all the Kaman to San Antonio talk is moot. That is, unless you think the Spurs are willing to trade Manu for Kaman.

    Yeah, didn't think so.

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    why is he terrible? He might be overpaid (hard to say with $ bigs get) but he's a 39% 3pt career shooter and his stats are definitely better than bonner's. He might fit better in the spurs' system than the suns' - I don't see him as much risk for the $ and 20 mpg.
    Think about it this way. Imagine that it's already the summer of 2012 and Frye is a free agent.

    Would you give him 3 years/19.2M?

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    Yes, Sheridans website is truly one of the worst out there.

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    Sheridan is an idiot. There's no way NO takes on RJ's contract, so all the Kaman to San Antonio talk is moot.
    True. Even if the Spurs offered Splitter with RJ, the NBA wouldn't approve eating RJ's contract. Other teams would be up in arms that the Spurs were able to unload such a horrible contract on an NBA owned team.

    With the NBA trying to sell the team, putting RJ's contract on the books is the last thing they want to do. I don't think the NBA would approve eating RJ's contract even if the Spurs included Splitter and Leonard.

    Kaman to the Spurs fails on all levels.

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    Because trading for him allows you to get rid of RJ's contract without using the amnesty which in turn saves you A LOT of money, free's up significant cap space and gets you immediate help upfront this year (with regards to him being better than Blair or Bonner).
    Nothing could ever be that easy. The Hornets are already "bleeding" money. Why in the would they take on RJ's contract? The Spurs would have to include a very significant piece in any trade scenario to get rid of RJ's contract. After all, you have to give up something to get something.

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    I already said that as well. You'd have to read back to my original statement for the context. Mine was more hypothetical.

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    Think about it this way. Imagine that it's already the summer of 2012 and Frye is a free agent.

    Would you give him 3 years/19.2M?
    Yeah, that's about twice what Bonner makes, and the only difference is a tan. Phoenix fan in general hates Frye as much as average Spur fan hate Bonner, and Frye makes much more money.

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    Think about it this way. Imagine that it's already the summer of 2012 and Frye is a free agent.

    Would you give him 3 years/19.2M?
    He would also ruin our cap space for this summer. no!

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    Aside from the apparent logistical problems of getting him here, I don't think he would even match Splitter's effectiveness much less improve upon it and at post 30, he has no remaining upside, whereas Splitter could keep getting better in this league for a few years. Tiago is a step above Kaman right now and having to give up Tiago to get Kaman, if that was part of the deal, wouldn't make sense. On the other hand, Kaman would be a major upgrade over Blair/Bonner as 3rd big ashe has traditional center skills of postgame, rebounding etc. He might also be more effective on the Spurs without having to split time with Okafor. We saw some pretty good stats from him in LA, but that was the Clippers. In any event, I'm not that excited about him overall.

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    Think about it this way. Imagine that it's already the summer of 2012 and Frye is a free agent.

    Would you give him 3 years/19.2M?
    I didn't realize his salary got up to 7 mil by yr 4 - that's probably a bit steep for a 7/6 big. I just remember him being pretty effective in the playoffs and those kind of players are what the spurs need.

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    The Spurs best bets for getting a big are signing a veteran or trying to develop young talent.

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    I didn't realize his salary got up to 7 mil by yr 4 - that's probably a bit steep for a 7/6 big. I just remember him being pretty effective in the playoffs and those kind of players are what the spurs need.
    Channing Frye IS terrible. Hes probably as soft or worse off than Bonner. He never did well in the playoffs.

    His career FG% is 44% and 39% 3pt in the regular season. In the playoffs hes 36% FG and 35% 3pt.

    In the 2009-2010 season, he averaged 11.2 pts, 5.3 rebounds, 45 FG%, 44% 3pt%, and 27 minutes. The suns made the playoffs that year but in the 16 games played, only his rebounding improved. His PPG dropped to 8.2 and his shooting percentages suffered big time. His percentages were reduced to 36 FG% and 35 3pt%.

    Compared to Bonner, he seems to be the better rebounder and does have more length, but I'm not sure if hes anything more than a 4/5th type big man like Bonner. And I'm not sure if hes worth the price difference between the two.

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    Rockets trying to acquire Kaman

    The Houston Rockets have had extensive discussions with the New Orleans Hornets about center Chris Kaman and appear to be in the lead to trade for him, numerous sources told SI.com

    While no deal is imminent and the pieces are still being discussed, sources said the talks have involved the Rockets' two top-10 picks from the 2009 draft -- center Hasheem Thabeet (No. 2 by Memphis) and power forward Jordan Hill (No. 8 by New York). The Rockets have other young former first-rounders who could be included as well, among them second-year forward Patrick Patterson, third-year point guard Jonny Flynn and third-year small forward Terrence Williams. They also have a 2012 first-round pick from the Knicks that the Hornets would love to obtain.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1lAZxNFOz




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    The Rockets can have him. Let them deplete their resource well of young talent now for a guy they can get for free this summer.

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    Well other than Jordan Hill and the 2012 1st Rounder, the other young talent mentioned is pretty crappy. A Kaman-Scola combo would be an upgrade. For the Spurs offering anything other than RJ+Blair+Anderson is asking too much. No way we should toss a pick in there.

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    Well other than Jordan Hill and the 2012 1st Rounder, the other young talent mentioned is pretty crappy. A Kaman-Scola combo would be an upgrade. For the Spurs offering anything other than RJ+Blair+Anderson is asking too much. No way we should toss a pick in there.
    I wouldn't give up Jordan Hill in that trade, he's playing too well and he's still young.

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    Rockets are a good trade partner for the Hornets because they have a lot of expiring contracts. They should be able to reach a deal.

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    Which do you think is more likely? Although neither probability is high, Kenyon Martin or Chris Kaman in the Silver and Black?

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    After thinking about it...No thanks. (I didn't have to think long) Bruno pretty much posted the same I was thinking.

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    Kaman is an expiring, IMO for them to give Kaman up it will take expirings plus a first rounder

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    If N.O. is considering taking Jordan and Thabeet, they might as well just release Kaman.

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    Was reading today that the Pacers are becoming the favorites to get Kaman

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