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  1. #76
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    He's a pretty ty coach and they have one of the most re ed GM's in the NBA so can't blame Howard for wanting him out. Don't understand why he'd commit to the magic again only to it up in the next few weeks.
    Exactly. So he wants to get Van Grunty fired. So what, Van Grunty sucks. His teams can't close a lead to save their life. The losses to WWE in the Finals the most glaring.

    Wish Howard would have said "yes i said i wanted him replaced and whoever the snitch is, whatever".

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    Bynum is so mature.
    Bynum's not afraid of the moment. Nor is he afraid of following Shaq's legacy. D12 is. LINK

    , Bynum is playing (and THRIVING) in "Shaq's shadow". Bynum is playing with the pressure of expected championships - virtually by being a Laker - every night he suits up.

    D12 wants people to like him. He wants to have fun. Bynum ain't like that.

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    Just remember (EVERYBODY) it was your old Dad here that swore against this turdhound. I was called everything but a wife beater then. And look whats happened in the interim. I was proven right.
    Shoulder to shoulder!

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    Bynum's not afraid of the moment.
    His knees are.

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    Guess Orlando is the antic and Dwight is the iceberg.

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    Clever. Why didn't I think of that?

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    Video from this morning of SVG and Howard. Especially awkward moment around the 3 minute mark:

    http://www.nba.com/magic/video/2012/...rtsm4v-2057675
    Damn that is awkward as . Dwight trying to pretend like it's not true and Van Gundy saying management told him it was true. Ouch.

    Bynum is immature but this is much more poisonous behavior. If you want a coach out you can't handle it like this. Howard has now alienated himself from his teammates who liked Van Gundy and has now guaranteed his team has no chance to win anything now without lots of roster moves. You can't win with this kind of internal conflict and resentment among teammates.
    Last edited by namlook; 04-06-2012 at 01:52 PM.

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    Someone who agrees with me...

    Dwight gotta go...

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    But who's going to take him after all of these that he put Orlando through?

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    But who's going to take him after all of these that he put Orlando through?
    There are easily 20 absolutely stupid GMs holding NBA jobs at any given point in time.

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    But who's going to take him after all of these that he put Orlando through?
    I'd take him on the Spurs.

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    I'd take him on the Spurs.
    Dwight Howard is the very definition of "not over himself yet".

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    Stan Van Gundy's coaching options
    If SVG is fired, these teams could be interested in him


    Let's call it the beginning of the end.

    By now most of you have seen the video, an epic setup in which Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy left star center Dwight Howard to confront his own duplicity.

    Howard, as we've learned, has asked management on multiple occasions to fire Van Gundy, even while the franchise center has tried to play Mr. Nice Guy to the public. (Fair question to wonder: How much of this devious behavior has been Howard and how much has been the people around Howard?)

    And now that this fact is public, we know how this movie ends. Howard's reputation may take a hit, but superstars have been backstabbing coaches for eons. The only difference here is that Howard is doing it to a coach who has been extremely effective, even while Howard himself has been coasting all season and recently re-halved his non-efforts. Unfortunately for Van Gundy, even fantastic coaches are more easily replaced than superstar centers. If Howard is going to stay in Orlando, we can safely presume Van Gundy won't.

    Which gives rise to the obvious question: Then what?

    If and when the Magic and Van Gundy decide to part ways, he won't lack for options. In fact, he'll immediately become one of the league's hottest coaching candidates. Van Gundy is one of nine active coaches to take a team to the NBA Finals (if we still consider Phil Jackson active). He has never had a losing season and boasts gaudy career winning percentages of .644 overall and .573 in playoff games. He's had some help, obviously, as Shaquille O'Neal (with the Heat) and Dwight Howard were his two centers, but even this season he's managed to keep the Magic on a winning track despite all the behind-the-scenes issues with Howard.

    While Van Gundy may decide to take it easy for a year if he's out of a job, he would have his pick this offseason from several jobs that are either already open or will possibly become open.

    So where might he end up? Let's sort through the candidates:

    The favorites

    ESPN or TNT: If I had to put one leader in the clubhouse, it would be the television networks. Van Gundy is hands-down the best coach interview in the league, delivering humorous, irreverent monologues on a variety of subjects, and his brother Jeff has enjoyed his career in broadcasting so much that he seems in no rush to return to coaching. Additionally, it's been common for high-profile coaches to chill out in the booth for a while and recharge their batteries before returning to the league.

    L.A. Clippers: If Van Gundy could stomach working for owner Donald Sterling (word of advice, Stan: Get all your money paid up front), this would be a great gig because Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are the franchise centerpieces. We don't know how long Paul will stick around, but Griffin probably isn't going anywhere after he signs a max extension, and Van Gundy would add the credibility that might persuade both players to stay.

    Additionally, he'd fix what most ails them. Van Gundy's teams have always played great defense even when he hasn't had particularly great defensive talent on his roster, so he'd likely repair a struggling Clippers defense that has been their weak link this season.

    Vinny Del Negro still has this job, but his contract expires after the season and he has been rumored to be on thin ice. L.A. has won seven of eight to keep the dogs at bay, but he probably needs to win two playoff rounds to get another contract.

    Washington: Several pieces are in place that may make this an attractive gig. The Wizards have really suffered in the area of player development the past few years, and they badly need a capable teacher to tighten up all the loose ends in the games of players like John Wall and Jordan Crawford. It's not clear whether Wizards owner Ted Leonsis would pay Van Gundy's going rate, but if he's going to dive right back into coaching, this is the one currently open gig that seems most promising, with Randy Wittman considered just an interim coach.

    The possibles

    Portland: The Blazers are talking big about using their cap space and draft picks to reload for next season, and they have been willing to spend on coaching candidates in the past -- that's how they lured Nate McMillan from Seattle. Van Gundy's penchant for speaking frankly may not sit well with owner Paul Allen's shadow government in Seattle, however, and in recent years the Blazers have shied away from spending the kind of money that it would take to get Van Gundy to come.

    Additionally, the Blazers are without a general manager right now, and timing may get in the way. They appear to be dithering on hiring a permanent GM, and by the time they get one Van Gundy may already have been off the market for a long time.

    New York: Here's a really good gig with a team that's willing to spend money and has several good players in their primes, and obviously there's a family connection, as well, since Jeff Van Gundy once coached the Knicks. From Stan's perspective, this one seems really alluring. So why don't I rate it as more likely? I just can't imagine that the team's overlords at MSG will assent to hiring Van Gundy because there's no way he'd put up with the Knicks' secrecy policy and other assorted PR shenanigans.

    Charlotte: If the Bobcats win the lottery, Van Gundy would have to be intrigued by the possibility of coaching an Anthony Davis-Bismack Biyombo frontcourt and turning the Bobcats into a defensive monster. Given their financial woes, though, it's unclear whether the Bobcats would meet Van Gundy's asking price. Additionally, he'll likely have chances to take over better teams than this one.

    The unlikelies

    Philadelphia, Sacramento and Atlanta: All three of these teams have a decent but hardly imposing collection of talent, and more importantly all three have coaches that are under contract for at least one more season. (In Atlanta's case, it's a team option for coach Larry Drew.) And each of the three has questions about whether the team's pockets are deep enough to afford a coach like Van Gundy.

    But they all bear mentioning, as I'm not sure any of the three is fully committed to its current head coach. Keeping to his historical calendar, Philly's Doug Collins is in the midst of driving everybody crazy with his nitpicking, and the team's play has slipped noticeably. Sacramento hired Keith Smart as kind of an "interim plus-one" and has already pursued Van Gundy once. And while Drew has done an excellent job with an injury-riddled Hawks team, Atlanta has seemed reluctant to commit to anything long term while the team's sale is pending.

    New Jersey/Brooklyn: Two big problems here. First, obviously, Avery Johnson still has the job and may be keeping it, even though the Nets have basically abandoned the idea of playing defense under him. Second, and more problematic, is the Nets' aspiration to be Dwight Howard's next destination, which obviously would take a big hit if they hired Van Gundy.
    There's still material at the beyond what I pasted but it's irrelevant to the thread and topic at hand.

  15. #90
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    Dwight's still not gonna stay.

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    But who's going to take him after all of these that he put Orlando through?
    The Nets. It's much easier to take him when you're his preferred destination.

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    The Nets. It's much easier to take him when you're his preferred destination.
    Yup, being the King of Brooklyn, rival the Knicks, build your legacy there.

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    Howard is after all the honies impregnating all he can find. Ron Jeremy is his compe ion. Only natural animalistic instinct to want to rid of your compe ion.

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    dunno how u can take this guy serious when his busy smiling in front of the camera everytime.....fck mate, if you put as much time into ur game as you do smiling, you might be a better player

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    Dwight Howard down on coach?

    Magic center Dwight Howard has called team owner Rich DeVos to tell him that he won't play for coach Stan Van Gundy anymore, WKMG in Orlando is reporting.

    Howard missed his sixth straight game with a back injury Wednesday against the Celtics, and Van Gundy has already said that he is preparing for his big man to miss the rest of the season and the playoffs.

    Howard is still upset that Van Gundy publicly said this month that Howard asked management to have him fired, sources told WKMG. According to the report, the 86-year-old DeVos took Howard's call in his suite at the Amway Center sometime during Friday's game against the Hawks.

    Uncertainty has dogged the Magic for quite some time. Howard asked management for a trade in the preseason, but after months of speculation he signed a waiver of the opt-out clause in his contract, meaning that he would remain under contract to Orlando at least through next season.
    What a .

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    Well his folks are denying it, but there is a lot of "smoke" coming out of Orlando (not a media giant by any means) for there to be no fire.

    Has there ever been a Magic fan on here? Real one, not a troll? Would love to get an honest to goodness Magic fan to to get a sense of what the fan base is feeling and whom they believe ...

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    Well his folks are denying it, but there is a lot of "smoke" coming out of Orlando (not a media giant by any means) for there to be no fire.

    Has there ever been a Magic fan on here? Real one, not a troll? Would love to get an honest to goodness Magic fan to to get a sense of what the fan base is feeling and whom they believe ...
    http://truebluenation.com/forum/inde...o-magic-forum/

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    wtf

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    Not a fan of either Dwight or SVG, but tbh both Dwight and SVG are primadonnas.

    Stan's pulled a move that would impress Paul Westphal and Dan Gilbert..this has been crazy but inevitable I suppose:


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