Why does no one question Sheed's "heart"?

[violentkitten]

sheed's heart is not questioned because he has ink, wears a headband, and leads the league in techs.

[geerussell]

Yeah, Tim had a bad fourth quarter. Kind of like the entire Piston team did in Game 1 and 2.

Fact: Spurs are never in a position to win Game 5, if Tim didn't have such a monster 28 pt, 19 reb. night. Horry may have save us late, but Tim was the one that kept us in the game to begin with.

You're losing sight of the point. Duncan puts up nice statlines and obviously all the contributions matter. The subject being discussed here is "heart" and that comes through in the clutch. Players who have it thrive on the pressure and those who don't shrink from it.

[Spurminator]

I know it's tough for you to do with your Black and Silver glasses on, but for once credit the Pistons Defense - Wallaces and McDyess have swarmed him and he admitted as much in Press Conference following game 6.

So then is it the Piston defense or Tim's heart?

, I'm with you... What kind of numbers SHOULD Duncan put up against the Pistons??

But then your own fans undermine the Piston defense by blaming Duncan's below average clutch play on his Heart.

[modeleste]

I can't believe Piston fans have less respect for Duncan than they do for Shaq .

I just hope Ducan makes you all eat your words tonight. No better revenge than winning.

In my experience most Pistons fans have Much more respect for Duncan than Shaq. Tim is constantaly praised for his skill and personality. Shaq is praised for his big butt

[DarrinS]

Tim's had bad 4Q's in games 3-6 ... that's a trend, not an accident... I know it's tough for you to do with your Black and Silver glasses on, but for once credit the Pistons Defense - Wallaces and McDyess have swarmed him and he admitted as much in Press Conference following game 6.

In game 6, he didn't get the ball. He only had 14 attempts. Is that because he couldn't get position? Or because his teammates failed to get him the ball?

[Spurminator]

Well, if we've learned anything in this thread... Heart is defined by whether or not one's occasional failures are swept under the rug.

[MadDog73]

Tim's had bad 4Q's in games 3-6 ... that's a trend, not an accident... I know it's tough for you to do with your Black and Silver glasses on, but for once credit the Pistons Defense - Wallaces and McDyess have swarmed him and he admitted as much in Press Conference following game 6.

Tim didn't get the touches to have a bad 4th quarter in Game 6. Last I remember, he was the Spur who brought the score to a 1 pt. Piston lead.

But, yeah, the Pistons are doing as good a job as they can on Tim. He's still the 2nd leading scorer of the series

[MadDog73]

Do Piston fans seriously think the Heat was harder to beat than the Spurs?!?

Is that what you're saying here? If so, then what will be your excuse if you lose tonight? Injuries?

[geerussell]

The spurs are a much better team than the heat. Duncan is a better all around player than Shaq.

Shaq is a tougher compe or than Duncan... it's the heart thing again.

Well, if we've learned anything in this thread... Heart is defined by whether or not one's occasional failures are swept under the rug.

It's defined by stepping up in the clutch.

[Pistons_In_7]

Sheed does not want the spotlight or the pressure of being the star that carries his team,

I love sheed but i think he's a slacker and one of the biggest wastes of talent in an NBA player ive ever seen.

We all know how skilled he is but he is a pussy.

[MadDog73]

The spurs are a much better team than the heat. Duncan is a better all around player than Shaq.

Shaq is a tougher compe or than Duncan... it's the heart thing again.

I just don't see it (of course, I'm biased against Shaq). IMO, the league allows Shaq to play by different rules than the rest of the NBA. That's why no one can guard him. He just knocks you out of the way, and slams the ball down. If Shaq's on your team, you love it. If not, you hate him. I guess it's not his fault the NBA allows it.

Duncan has to actually use skill and brains to get points. The fact that he's doing it against the tremendous Piston Defense only shows he has great heart. Or is Detroit defense worse than we thought?

But let's look at the numbers: Tim has 2 rings, 2 MVPs to Shaq's 3 and 3. But Shaq looks old, slow. Tim will be around for years to come.

In the end, I think Tim's numbers will speak for themselves. I'm guessing tonight we'll see Game 5 Timmy (hopefully, sans the missed FTs).

[combs84]

I really thought the 2 best teams played each other in the Eastern Conference Finals, you can hate me for that but its just my opinion. Miami scared me much more then you guys did, even up 2-0.

I'm not hating, just what I have thought all year long.

[DarrinS]

I really thought the 2 best teams played each other in the Eastern Conference Finals, you can hate me for that but its just my opinion. Miami scared me much more then you guys did, even up 2-0.

I'm not hating, just what I have thought all year long.

If Wade and Shaq had been healthy, the Spurs would be playing the Heat right now. The fact that the Pistons were BARELY able to beat a broken down Heat is why so many people thought the Spurs would beat the Pistons easily. I'll admit this. The Pistons have improved their play in the finals, whereas the Spurs are not playing nearly as well as they did in the Western conf playoffs.

Do you HONESTLY think you've seen the best Spurs play in this series?

[modeleste]

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Do you HONESTLY think you've seen the best Spurs play in this series?

Yes, or at least I hope so.

If the Spurs aren't able to show their best in a 7 game finals then they aren't great-- I prefer to think that they are

[geerussell]

If Wade and Shaq had been healthy, the Spurs would be playing the Heat right now. The fact that the Pistons were BARELY able to beat a broken down Heat is why so many people thought the Spurs would beat the Pistons easily. I'll admit this. The Pistons have improved their play in the finals, whereas the Spurs are not playing nearly as well as they did in the Western conf playoffs.

You got the facts right but missed the lesson. The pistons "barely" beat the heat and now have improved their play in the finals where they will "barely" beat the spurs because they tend to play to the level of their opposition.

[MadDog73]

I think part of the reason the Spurs have not played to their potential is the Piston defense.

But if the Pistons were hands down the better team, then the series would be over by now. Same with the Spurs.

You can't say that the Heat was better or the Suns were better, because they're not here. The two best teams in the NBA are playing a Finals game 7. The Playoffs don't get any closer than that.