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    That's what is really sad; Islam completely destroyed the most technologically advanced society on Earth, and the area has regressed into the dark ages and never recovered. All started by a cleric who prosletyzed about math being evil the same way the Christian Taliban goes after evolution and the big bang theory.
    Most advanced ever? Either way one culture destroyed another and is still around today: vacuum created and filled. Christian Taliban in America vs. Muslim conquest ~1500 years ago might be a stretch.

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    When you refer to an atheism "bubble", I get the impression you're saying it's concentrated in Western culture.
    In the Christian (or Islamic) concept, yes. Not in Asia nearly as much, but those religions don't prosthelytize outside their regions really, so they've been static.



    It's true. Gotta believe in something that you can't prove is true.



    Really? Electricity, radio waves, nuclear power, space travel, bioengineering ...etc. has been around for thousands of years?
    Point is that tech advancement, which is hugely cyclical over generations, isn't going to change people's long term minds in regards to theism/atheism. Short term it or crushing state control can, however.

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    Most advanced ever? Either way one culture destroyed another and is still around today: vacuum created and filled. Christian Taliban in America vs. Muslim conquest ~1500 years ago might be a stretch.
    I'm talking about the fundamentalist muslims destroying their own culture and turning Baghdad into a hole.

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    I'm sticking to my opinion. Believing that something does not exist is still a belief to me. If you simply did not care, you wouldn't have a hissy fit or a fest over the Nativity Scene.
    I don't care. That said, does that mean you have a belief that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist?

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    I don't care. That said, does that mean you have a belief that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist?
    So did Black Jesus save you from Clovis? Don't tell me your cracker ass ain't been praying.

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    Where was all this Religous bashing when your daddy Bush was president?

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    And DMC, you're right but America wants Christmas off. *shrug*

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    So did Black Jesus save you from Clovis? Don't tell me your cracker ass ain't been praying.
    Waitin day by day... The "latest" I should have to wait is by next week, assuming personnel folks are competent. A huge if, tbh

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    Atheists get more pissy and uppity when people criticize and/or bash atheism than Bible thumpers do when people bash Christianity. That's sad.

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    I'm talking about the fundamentalist muslims destroying their own culture and turning Baghdad into a hole.
    I thought the Mongols destroyed Baghdad at its peak? Was it outside Muslims before that? But still, being more advanced in tech won't beat the demographics when the tipping point is reached.

    Which is just like what Europe will face in the coming decades, except that the outside demogrpahics are inside the gates and growing. That sounds like hyperbole now but give it 50 years, or a century... which isn't much long term. My original point again: atheism is just a cultural vacuum.
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    Atheists get more pissy and uppity when people criticize and/or bash atheism than Bible thumpers do when people bash Christianity. That's sad.
    Evidence?

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    Atheists get more pissy and uppity when people criticize and/or bash atheism than Bible thumpers do when people bash Christianity. That's sad.
    There is a small group of Christians I hate, and a small group of atheists I hate. I hate the Christians who just cannot let others be in their beliefs, having to annoy others. I hate twice as much, the atheists who try to ruin other people's pleasures surrounding Christian faith. Specifically, the Christmas holiday.

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    more like a cult tbh. christmas is awesome for christians and pagans alike.

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    I thought the Mongols destroyed Baghdad at its peak? Was it outside Muslims before that? But still, being more advanced in tech won't beat the demographics when the tipping point is reached.

    Which is just like what Europe will face in the coming decades, except that the outside demogrpahics are inside the gates and growing. That sounds like hyperbole now but give it 50 years, or a century... which isn't much long term. My original point again: atheism is just a cultural vacuum.

    the later mongolian khanites were muslim

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    I thought the Mongols destroyed Baghdad at its peak? Was it outside Muslims before that? But still, being more advanced in tech won't beat the demographics when the tipping point.
    You seem to have missed my point about technology. The technology mankind is nearing god-like. We can manipulate life through genetics, we can destroy cities with a single bomb and live in outer space. Iron forging and steam engines had profound impacts on mankind, but they are hardly as god-like as the things I mentioned. We now live in a world where supreme beings seem illogical and unnecessary.

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    You seem to have missed my point about technology. The technology mankind is nearing god-like. We can manipulate life through genetics, we can destroy cities with a single bomb and live in outer space. Iron forging and steam engines had profound impacts on mankind, but they are hardly as god-like as the things I mentioned. We now live in a world where supreme beings seem illogical and unnecessary.
    I see you have delusions of grandeur. We are a long way off of having God-like powers.

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    Atheists get more pissy and uppity when people criticize and/or bash atheism than Bible thumpers do when people bash Christianity. That's sad.
    Your posts in this thread are a shining example of how angry bible thumpers get at the presence of atheism.

    In before, " I'm not a bible thumper and I have no problem with you got loving atheists "


    Atheists have never done anything like advocate to take away people's right to marriage or tell rape victims what they can/can't do with their body.

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    Atheists have never done anything like advocate to take away people's right to marriage or tell rape victims what they can/can't do with their body.
    True. They just try to destroy other people's pleasures. Only a few, but how can the others stay silent against thost who try to destroy others pleasures of Christmas, or religious symbols?

    Isn't remaining silent on the topic almost the same as being part of the problem?

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    Trying to take Christmas out of government isn't even comparable to persecuting gays for decades and taking away their right to marriage.

    There's plenty more we can get into, like KKK, which was a Christian organization

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    Trying to take Christmas out of government isn't even comparable to persecuting gays for decades and taking away their right to marriage.

    There's plenty more we can get into, like KKK, which was a Christian organization
    OK Mr. Dumbass.

    Is anyone trying to use the might of the federal government to imposes KKK views, or persecute gays?

    When an organization pulls string at the Federal level to limit other people's freedoms...

    Do you seriously approve?

    As for KKK claiming to be Christians... Bull . Evil will always use some cause to rally over. It is not a Christian view.

    Are you seriously that ignorant?

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    OK Mr. Dumbass.

    Is anyone trying to use the might of the federal government to imposes KKK views, or persecute gays?

    When an organization pulls string at the Federal level to limit other people's freedoms...

    Do you seriously approve?
    I don't think atheists are trying to limit anyone's freedoms. No one is saying Christians can't celebrate Christmas.

    To answer your other question, yes, countless Christians have been pushing for a federal ban on gay marriage for decades. Do you want me to start listing examples of Christian who persecute gays via the federal government?

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    To answer your other question, yes, countless Christians have been pushing for a federal ban on gay marriage for decades. Do you want me to start listing examples of Christian who persecute gays via the federal government?
    That isn't persecution now, is it?

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    As for KKK claiming to be Christians... Bull . Evil will always use some cause to rally over. It is not a Christian view.

    Are you seriously that ignorant?
    revise history all you want, but back in the KKK's heyday, they were endorsed by every white Church in the dirty South.

    50 years ago I'd be willing to bet you'd hate blacks the same way you hate gays now, you're a Christian and it's how Christian hate has progressed over the years. Once Christians were no longer allowed to persecute blacks, they found a new group to target. They're a hateful group of people

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    That isn't persecution now, is it?
    A federal ban that makes it so gays don't have the same rights as straight people.

    I guess this is like when the KKK said blacks having to use black bathrooms isn't persecution

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    That's the problem with too many people. They live in the past, with is a self limiting problem to keep them from living in the present.

    Seems to me you suffer from that disability.

    I'm sorry for you.

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