I am ending this debate now.

[sickdsm]

Also I've never heard any reports of Jordan punching his teammate in practice like MJ punching that rookie just for scoring on him. Great leader that "mvp" is.

Well, MJ KO'd Steve freakin Kerr and someone else, i forget.

Could very well have been that quote


The story is Rickert was playing well but in addition to elbowing Kev every time, which he told him to knock it off, Rickert would call foul on him on plays which he didn't do well, everytime.

[batman2883]

Are you ing re ed? Seriously. I thought you had some knowledge and at times wasn't as big of a homer as alot of people on here but seriously, ARE YOU ON CRACK????

The only reason they didn't beat L.A. is because Garnett refused to take over games when Minny needed him to.

On one hand you jock up cassell how great he was playing. Yes he was. But when you reached for the crack pipe did you spill on your stats you were looking at? Sam WAS HURT THAT SERIES! You might like to think that .4 was separating the spurs from a threepeat but had they won that series and played the wolves with sammy you probably would have been dispatched anyway. With Kevin running the point and at times Darrick Martin they still took it to the lakers for six games, not to mention game one was two days after a late emotional game seven. Take the spurs second best player, manu, out and what do you have?

Nothing with contender written in there for sure.

Kandi's a great shot blocker. So is Griffen, Chris Anderson, etc...

What does that have to do with defense? Did someone forget to tell you that overzealousness to block a shot, go up for pump fakes is PROBABLY why Kandi picks up fouls at a Fortson-like rate?

Sprewell wasn't that great of a defender last year. He was probably about equal to Hoiberg. Good but Freddy made up his lack of quickness with knowledge about the game. I hope you run a good 40 yard to make up for your lack of it.


Everyone LOVES to point out that Wally was an all star. Conveniently everyone forgets that WHEN he was he was a SG, his only year. They didn't do anything then bc he got hurt after the break.

As for making players better, how many guys that have been cut have been made into household names under duncan? Hoiberg and hassell WOULD NOT be in the league today without Kev. How many over the hill players has Tim made into all stars for the first time? Talk is all fine but really, with the lack of centers in the west and if tim is a player that makes others better, why the didn't rasho make the ASG? , his numbers are worse than the last year he was in minnesota.

You want to end this argument? Here it is. Theres a lot of "you types" in MN. The wolves have had moderate success so alot of people equate that hack Flip Saunders to it. The spurs have had success so people claim its all bc of timmy. The Spurs and Patriots are VERY similar like that. Nevermind the great coaching staff and rock solid scouts, front office, and entire personall, Tom Brady is likely headed to the HOF. , w/out a rock star kicker would he even have more than one ring? Doubtfull.

The REASON we are having this debate is while the spurs org. have been rock solid, the wolves have gave an average guy an illegal deal that cost them FOUR first round picks. That scenario alone would have cost you at least your last two rings. Without being able to sign some draft picks OR recruit big name FA's, how did you expect the wolves to compete? They did damn well considering. While your FO went through the players to see who there were going to draft, we only had our newly hired coach evaluating talent, no assistants. Not to mention McHale hates to scout and avoids travel (has said that numerous times). We ALSO hired our "non gm" GM in Chapman ONE DAY BEFORE the draft.

As much as I love KG, if it were possible i'd trade him for Buford, Pop and the scouts in a heartbeat and laugh how you guys got snookered.

You know this too.

Oh man get over it the Spurs owned the Timberwolves just as they owned the Suns this year, during the regular season, and they would have swept through them in the playoffs. Call Tim Duncan and the rest of the crew, the Timberwolve Killers, how many times did we knock them out the first round again???? Thats what i thought, why because your weak ass power foward KG is all talk, nothing more, when its time to take over a game, KG chokes the big one. I do believe Tim Duncan now has 3 Finals MVP trophies, to add to his 3 Larry O'Brien Trophies at the SBC center, and his Two NBA MVP awards won back to back. Some one give KG the hemlich, cause once again he's probably choking on something this very moment

[sickdsm]

Bull , do not defend KG and the Wolves, the only reason KG is not surrounded by better players is because he has a say in who the Wolves pick up. That alone is that teams downfall, did bringing over Latrell and Cassell what did he accomplish??? Nothing they didnt even make the playoffs, Duncan however, has a better supporting cast but thats cause he lets his front office do their job. Point made im out.

Foiled again Batman (damn that feels good to actually use that in a normal conversation!)

Joe Smith was his best buddy, Anthony Peeler was a very good friend toor.

For a guy that likes to stick with the friends he's always had, your reaching there.

[tophy7]

So punching him was going to solve the problem?

[Spursdaone]

1 player can't make that much of a difference for a sorry team. Ask Mcgrady.

[sickdsm]

Nice to see you actually put thought and intelligence into that post.

You forgot to blast Me/KG/Wolves on our grammer, spelling, moms, weather, NFL team, etc... without having anything to back up what you said.

[picnroll]

Well, MJ KO'd Steve freakin Kerr and someone else, i forget.

Could very well have been that quote


The story is Rickert was playing well but in addition to elbowing Kev every time, which he told him to knock it off, Rickert would call foul on him on plays which he didn't do well, everytime.

... and what's the story when Garnett slapped Duncan in the back of his head when Duncan had his back turned?

[sickdsm]

Were you talking about KG or Jordan?

Rickert is still trying to get a gig in the NBA.

If he's going to alledgedly have an at ude like that in a scrimmage, we wouldn't have had the chemistry we did in '04 then.

[tophy7]

Nice to see you actually put thought and intelligence into that post.

You forgot to blast Me/KG/Wolves on our grammer, spelling, moms, weather, NFL team, etc... without having anything to back up what you said.

grammAr

The reason I'm not responding in full is that I've had enough arguing with that other idiot

[Spursdaone]

Both karl Malone and KG are better than Duncan.

[tophy7]

... and what's the story when Garnett slapped Duncan in the back of his head when Duncan had his back turned?

Or when KG told duncan "happy mother's day mother er" knowing full well his mother died.
KG is such a great guy, I can't believe he'll retire ringless

[sickdsm]

... and what's the story when Garnett slapped Duncan in the back of his head when Duncan had his back turned?

Probably similar stories when Peeler hit KG without justification.

Have you ever competed at anything fiercly?

Or are you Tpark in disguise?

[batman2883]

Both karl Malone and KG are better than Duncan.

Tell me this isnt a real post from someone who actually watches basketball, because there was definitly no thought put into this comment.

[Spursdaone]

Duncan is soft.

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KG is a bigger ahole than Malone. He turns around and stabs Flip in the back as soon as Flips gone. Flip couldn't believe it and was truly hurt by the phony he thought was his friend.

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Spursdaone is wolves009/

[batman2883]

KG is a choke artist who will never win a ring, and Malone was a cheap shot, elbow throwing, ringless chump as well, I would still put Malone ahead of KG, but im sorry the hardware that Tim has speaks for itself.

[sickdsm]

Or when KG told duncan "happy mother's day mother er" knowing full well his mother died.
KG is such a great guy, I can't believe he'll retire ringless

Newbie, a year ago i challanged ANYONE to provide proof that happaned. I stated that Kori, among others probably has access to game film, radio broadcast etc... of that game. Give me audio, footage of lips moving, public accusation of a spur player even. Everyone stated that "so and so" told them it happaned. Eventually all fingers pointed back to Kori and LJ, who refused to acknowledge that.

Go lick yourself.

[Spursdaone]

Malone is the greatest power forward of all time followed by KG. If either had the talented players Duncan had they would be a dynasty.

[tophy7]

Newbie


Go lick yourself.

Such hostile behaviour, but then again being a fan of KG I wouldn't expect any less

[Spursdaone]

Go lick yourself.

I don't think it reaches.

[batman2883]

Malone is the greatest power forward of all time followed by KG. If either had the talented players Duncan had they would be a dynasty.

Oh man this guy definitly has no idea what he is talking about, Tim Duncan has already suprassed any little dent that Malone left behind by accomplishing what one other player in NBA history had ever done, Two years straight being the MVP. Malone is under Tim Duncan now, just a simple fact do some research, just go to ESPN.com and look at the poll and what the analysts say. Its Duncan at number 1, then Malone, then KG.

[batman2883]

Duncan murders KG every time they play against each other, every time. So until someone comes up with a logical reason as to why KG actually is a better player than Duncan, just face the truth. Tim Duncan OWNS KG, he OWNS him. Im out

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Malone is the greatest power forward of all time followed by KG. If either had the talented players Duncan had they would be a dynasty.

Let's check it out:
Karl Malone had John Stockton arugebly one of the best PG' EVER and Jeff Hornacek and quality role players that lead him to the finals more than once yet to be stuffed by the Bulls. Oh wait that is the reason he doesn't have a ring because a team beat his team. That must TD's fault.

Kevin Garnett had Stephon Marbuy, Chanuncey Billups, Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell. Yet for all of Garnett's players he still had trouble getting out of the 1st round.

Let us look at there resumes:
Tim Duncan: 3 Rings, 3 Final MVPS, 2 MVPs
Karl Malone: 2 MVPs
Kevin Garnett: MVP

I could go into the All-NBA selections, All-Star Selections/MVPS, scoring les and career stats but, that would take to long. Since Duncan at the peak of his prime has a had a uva better career than all of Karl Malones and will probably have a better one than KG's it is safe to say that TD > KG and Malone. Also, TD's career stats are higher than KG's except for KG"s useless assists.

[sickdsm]

KG is a choke artist who will never win a ring, and Malone was a cheap shot, elbow throwing, ringless chump as well, I would still put Malone ahead of KG, but im sorry the hardware that Tim has speaks for itself.

Horry >>>>>>Duncan?

Tell me then, what was the reason why Tim Choked at the olympics?

, he had the best two coaches in the game, Guys who went for MVP thought-worthy years in AI, LeBron, Wade, Amare the very next season. RJ was having a GREAT year too before injury.

In FACT, the only two guys that had unimpressive seasons were Carmelo and Boozer.

No excuse for that, you can't even use the "no shooter" argument since the rest of your roster was so much better.

It'd be like blaming the pistons loss on there lack of 12'th man game experience.