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Tim Duncan vs. Kevin Garnett
Let's break it down:
Scoring: Tim is unstoppable on the block when being gaurded one on one. He has so many post moves and knows how to draw contact and get to the line. His bank shot is money from the left wing and he can hit the open jumper from 18ft and in. KG has a much better jumpshot and turnaround than Tim but he relies on them too much. KG has very little to work with in the post but a turnaround jumpshot which he can't seem to hit over defenders as tall or taller than him (KG shot 31% against the Spurs this season while Tim shot 52%).
Edge: Tim
Passing: KG averages more assists than Tim but only because Minnesota's offense is designed for him to make passes to cutters. Tim is better at passing out of double teams and KG is better at finding cutters.
Edge: Even
Defense: Tim is an excellent shot blocker and help defender. He always comes out on when defending the screen and roll and often erases his teammates defensive mistakes by comming out and swatting their man's shot away. KG is nowhere near the shot blocker that Tim is (Tim averaged a whole block more than KG during the regular season) but he is more mobile and plays the passing lanes better.
Edge: Tim
Intangibles: Tim is much better in the clutch than KG, as he showed in Game 7 of the Finals, Tim can take over and give his team key baskets when they need them and kick it out to his teammates for clutch 3's. He has also hit a lot of game winning shots in his career. Tim is also the consumate teammate, he never tries to draw attention to himself and has the utmost trust in his teammates. Tim also has 3 championship rings and 3 finals MVP's to go with the rings. KG has come up short in the clutch time and time again (he has only gotten past the 1st round once and missed the playoffs this past season).
Edge: Tim
Overall Edge: Tim
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kg yells when he dunks
(Smiles When He Dunks)
All Stars as respective teammates:
Tim: Big Dave, Manu
KG: Starbury, Googs, Wally Cleaver
KG cusses up a storm when he gets fouled, when he dunks, when he makes a basket, when he fouls someone... Terrets anyone?
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I think that was a pretty good break down. You can't measure everything just by stats. I've thought that with the exception of this year and 99 that kg had a better team surrounding him, especially on offense.
KG is more of a wiry athlete and tim is a basketball player. It also seems wierd that kg couldn't keep stephon thugberry and rabbit tooth with him. While timmy has kept manu and tp.
I think right now if I had an open 4 spot on my roster I would have to give the nod to td.
This is what it comes down to... Timmy, four years of college, and graduated. KG, right out of high school. Tim has learned to make his teammates around him better, while KG only complains when his teammates don't do enough.
Hey, but but but...Timmy has never...won an Olympic Gold Metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like your analysis but I think KG and Timmy would still average the same assists if they were switched. KG is a better passes by far....You may be right about passingout of double teams, but KG makes up for it with better ball handling. I think that is KG's edge.
Kevin gets a nice edge in free throw shooting, hitting at least 75% for each of the last 6 seasons and he's also a better outside FG shooter.
He's also outrebounded Tim each of the last 3 years, and 1,839 assists to 1,089 last year is also substantial.
He also had 121 steals to Tim's 45 last year. (Kevin played in 16 more games)
I said in an earlier post this month that KG and Tim are the best 2 players in the NBA. If Kevin had more character I'd probably rather have him, following are a couple KG quotes.
"I'm like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. If I'm not ready, the sled isn't going to go."
And the following comments regarding the 2004 playoffs with the Lakers:
"I'm sitting in the house loading up the pump, I'm loading up the Uzis, I've got a couple of M-16s, couple of nines, couple of joints with some silencers on them, couple of grenades, got a missile launcher. I'm ready for war"
Plus KG's in love with the "F" word (sorry for the language insinuation Kori
I don't like a lot of smack talk, I prefer the players that do their talking on the court, with their game. Tim gets a massive edge here and that and the overall closeness in the stats gives him a paper-thin edge in my book.
that quote u got about KG and war, that came from 2004 kings series, game 7 not the lakers
Also , if uve checked duncans last 2 seasons in points and rebounds have been the worst of his career, with him having played in the summer, thats not the coincidence, plus missed more games this and last season then ever before
in 2005-2006, i expect him to get back to normal, with 23+points, and 13 boards
First of all Garnett is a better rebounder and passer. Tim is unstoppable on the block? The only unstoppable player I can think of is Shaq but Garnett has more quickness to make up for is lack of post moves. Tim has a better coach and unselfish players on his team unlike Garnett. This is an unfair comparison due to each teams situations.
man KG has one of the biggest problems u can have, which is selflessness
he doesnt seem to understand he must offensively take over games, unlike Duncan who doesnt. Tim duncan just steppin on the floor opens the game, which Garnet does not accomplish, he has to score to do that. Imagine mcgrady tryin to give up passes without first tearin up the score board . also, i dont like how garnett tries to do so much, he should relax with all the passin, considerin the kind of assist he gets are point guard assists, he shouldnt be making them
Just look at what happens when they go head to head. If my memory serves me correct, Tim outplayed KG almost every time.
but duncan assists, they are good assists, cuz basically those assist means he created somethin by suckin in defenders, while kg basically camps on the perimeter and swings the ball, not really creatin them
i remember that duncan had like 35-40 point, 20-25 rebound game against garnet like 2 years back
was one of the most dominatin performances in recent history in my mind
First off there is no such thing as good assist and bad assist. They both create but Minnesota has 3 selfish players in Cassell, Sprewell, and Szerbiak and sorry ass center in Olawakandi. Garnett has to work with and they don't know how to play the game. Put him on a good team and things will be alot different like what happened to Mcgrady this year.
Yep, good point, I'm sure they would have been better if he only had 447 assists instead of 1,839...
he probably should pass up on those assists and give the ball to his point guard while the open man is no longer the open man...
Duncan has made it past the 1st round every season expect that time he got injured and missed the playoffs, and ur not gonna tell me his teams have been stacked with talent his whole career, dont think cuz manu is comin into his own these last 2 years that duncan hasnt been doin it by him self most his career. Garnet regardless of who has been on his team , he's made it past once
cant argue that
Looks like you didn't end the debate...
hey jochejam, my point is his assist are assist almost anybody could make, he basically just swings the ball, man any body on the perimeter can be makin them, barely any of them assists come off him being just on the floor,
now I am. Switch Garnett with Duncan and you got a even longer dynasty.
no u dont
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