Spurs: Argie is no longer a Spur in my eyes

[jag]

me "sucking off players"

I regularly on players. Even the Golden God himself. Who has spent much of his NBA career playing like a soft pussy.

[midnightpulp]

Not a real feud, to be completely and totally 100% honest.

I just can't help but clown on people who change their opinions of players from game to game.

If you hate Tony...cool.

If you hate Manu...cool.

If you hate Ricky Davis....cool.


But you look like a got when you jerk someone off for playing well and then start a thread about how they aren't clutch or should die when they don't play well. It's GNSF-esque

I don't recall ever gushing over a Manu and Tony performance. Most I'll give them is props for doing what the they are supposed to do.

And yeah, I'm am on game-by-game basis with those two, since their inconsistency has basically wired me to have a "like-hate" thing for them.

And HH, the Mid-Jag feud started with my "Tony Parker is not clutch" thread. _Jag didn't appreciate me insulting his hero like that and has been on my case with his cutting edge "regulation" (like calling me a GNSF) ever since.

[midnightpulp]

For the record:

Manu has special qualities about him that Tony will never have. That being said, 60% of the time Manu is on the court he plays like a re . The other 40% he does game-winning .

And I call him out appropriately.

Why do you have a problem with this?

[Rogue]

manu is no longer a spur in your eyes but will always be a spur in the opposing team's heart. guy can brick all shots through 3.5 quarters but he's still the most reliable option when it comes the BIG time. plus it wasn't manus fault that he and tim BOTH were benched during crunch minutes. Pop gave too much trust to his role players and it turned out to be a mistake.

[Technique]

But there's no guarantee a foul stops him from scoring. How many times have we seen a player try to prevent an easy layup/dunk with a foul only for it to turn into an and 1?

Are you sure it's Pop's MO to foul at that point in the game, with 26 seconds left? I'm sure he'll go to bat for Manu and say it was a good foul, but I just think playing the odds by not fouling is the smarter play. Putting a player at the FT line in that situation also risks him making the 1st, missing the second, opposing team gets the offensive rebound and ties the game with a 3.

By not fouling you remove every bit of risk that can happen to you. Why risk it on the chance he misses a FT? Maybe if Allen was Dwight Howard, but he shoots about 80% and was 4-4 in the game.

If this was at the 5 minute mark (or even the 1 minute mark), I totally agree with fouling. But the clock at 26 seconds changes things.

With that logic, you're at risk to get the inbound pass stolen the following possession and the Grizz hitting a Reggie-esque 3. You can go through the possibilities and probabilities over 100 times. But, what we have are facts. Ginobili didn't allow Allen to make an And 1. Allen flopped. The officials made a bad call.

I'm more upset with Parker the following play, he knew the Grizz had a foul to give yet waited until 5 seconds left in regulation to make a play. Wasted possession.

[Robz4000]

This thread delivers tbh.

For the record, mid made a ty post that he shouldn't of, but his legendary trolling of Laker fan gives him a pass.

[Jeff Van Gundy]

When did this Jag-Mid feud begin, tbh?..

Idk but its entertaining imho fwiw

[TDMVPDPOY]

turnoboli hero mode is disgusting as watching super gary no show

hopefully the spurs FO are smart and dont renew these idiots next season....

[jag]

And HH, the Mid-Jag feud started with my "Tony Parker is not clutch" thread. _Jag didn't appreciate me insulting his hero like that and has been on my case with his cutting edge "regulation" (like calling me a GNSF) ever since.

If it makes you feel better to think that then ok.

A lot of people here on Tony. That's nothing unique. I give FkLA because he posts tranny porn, goes to lol UTSA and has some of the most re ed posts on this forum. The fact that he dislikes Tony is just a bonus.

I take shots at you for the reasons I stated above. You blame inconsistency, but Tony has been the most consistent Spurs player for years now.

You waffle back and forth from "giving him props" and absolving him from any past or future blame (after big games/wins), but then start or bump old threads after poor performances. You're in constant meltdown mode and you come off like a . Why wouldn't I clown you and your tired act?

[TDMVPDPOY]

If it makes you feel better to think that then ok.

A lot of people here on Tony. That's nothing unique. I give FkLA because he posts tranny porn, goes to lol UTSA and has some of the most re ed posts on this forum. The fact that he dislikes Tony is just a bonus.

I take shots at you for the reasons I stated above. You blame inconsistency, but Tony has been the most consistent Spurs player for years now.

You waffle back and forth from "giving him props" and absolving him from any past or future blame (after big games/wins), but then start or bump old threads after poor performances. You're in constant meltdown mode and you come off like a . Why wouldn't I clown you and your tired act?

the only consistency ive seen from parker is no show when teams clog the lanes and chuck a bigger player on him, only too see him roll up into fetus position asking the bigger player go ahead and kick my head in

[jag]

the only consistency ive seen from parker is no show when teams clog the lanes and chuck a bigger player on him, only too see him roll up into fetus position asking the bigger player go ahead and kick my head in

Hey TDMVPDPOY, it's good to see you. Thank you for your contribution. How are things in Australia?

[Technique]

the only consistency ive seen from parker is no show when teams clog the lanes and chuck a bigger player on him, only too see him roll up into fetus position asking the bigger player go ahead and kick my head in

Hmm? He's guarded by Tony Allen first team all-defensive and a top 3 perimeter defender in the game. And in the paint is the DPOY center in Marc Gasol. Which team do you think is going to guard him any better than they are now?

The reason why he's doing better now is because his teammates are all of the sudden knocking down open looks. All Parker can do when the paint is clogged is give his teammates a good look, and he does that consistently, and makes it look easy.

[Brunodf]

Pop is the one to blame for this , played Bonner/Neal BIG minutes in the 3rd/4th and his stupid small lineup with Diaw/Bonner vs Gasol/Randolph

[Trainwreck2100]

Sons this is the that will turn the nation against the grizzlies and exposed them as hypocrites

[TDMVPDPOY]

Hmm? He's guarded by Tony Allen first team all-defensive and a top 3 perimeter defender in the game. And in the paint is the DPOY center in Marc Gasol. Which team do you think is going to guard him any better than they are now?

The reason why he's doing better now is because his teammates are all of the sudden knocking down open looks. All Parker can do when the paint is clogged is give his teammates a good look, and he does that consistently, and makes it look easy.

that defense some of you clowns love to boast and gloat out of ur asses, shouting at scrubs who fail to switch cause your hero going under screen or having his ankles broken by easy stutter playground moves

anyway this t hread is about turnoboli, fck the argy fans are protecting this fkn scrub like that other midget of theirs at barca

[midnightpulp]

If it makes you feel better to think that then ok.

A lot of people here on Tony. That's nothing unique. I give FkLA because he posts tranny porn, goes to lol UTSA and has some of the most re ed posts on this forum. The fact that he dislikes Tony is just a bonus.

I take shots at you for the reasons I stated above. You blame inconsistency, but Tony has been the most consistent Spurs player for years now.

You waffle back and forth from "giving him props" and absolving him from any past or future blame (after big games/wins), but then bump or start old threads after poor performances. You're in constant meltdown mode and you come off like a . Why wouldn't I clown you and your tired act?

And in the playoffs?

Last year for example. 16-21 for 34 points in game two.

"Yeah, Tony is finally the superstar we all hoped he'd be. We got this !"

Proceeds to shoot 16-41 over the next 3 games, including a 5-14, 5 TO performance in the crucial game 5, which was at home.

I guess my problem is I expect too much from Parker. When he has one of those big games, I start believing he's better than his skill set and expect those kind of performances on the regular. The 22 points on 49% shooting is all fine and good in the regular season and the first two or three games of a playoff series, but I can't recall off the top of my head a transcendent performance from Parker in a game 5, 6, or 7. He almost delivered last year in game 6 against the Thunder, but predictably faded, as usual. And on a team that hasn't had a legit superstar since '07, it's frustrating to be constantly teased like that.

[Splits]

Allen escalating it with major acting and likely an upcoming fine has nothing to do with Gino.

There will be no fine. Not even a warning.

[AaronY]

There will be no fine. Not even a warning.

Yeah, that new flopping rule is like biggest joke ever..even if its a fine it will be like 1/2000 of the guys yearly salary..gamechanger..

[Bill_Brasky]

[td4mvp2k]

Because in the playoffs you don't give up layups. You foul and make players earn them from the line. If Manu DOESN'T foul, then he has to hear it from Pop for giving up an easy layup.

It was a normal foul. Allen escalating it with major acting and likely an upcoming fine has nothing to do with Gino.

+1 x 10 .... Fn refs did wat they could to give da spurs an L

[FkLA]

at _Jag trying to act like hes not a huge Parker fanboy.

I dont recall him ' ting on me' aka following me around regarding shemales, UTSA, or bleeding green white and red...but as soon as I made a thread about Parker struggling vs GS hes been following me around. Everyone has their favorites, personally I have a huge man crush on Manu dont see the point in denying like he does with Parker tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

that dumb foul is stupid as the foul on dirk in the wcf elimination game 7

just as stupid as his other mistakes in the final 20 seconds last possession to seal a win only to have the idiot with poor handles when dribbling into the defender....

[FkLA]

And in the playoffs?

Last year for example. 16-21 for 34 points in game two.

"Yeah, Tony is finally the superstar we all hoped he'd be. We got this !"

Proceeds to shoot 16-41 over the next 3 games, including a 5-14, 5 TO performance in the crucial game 5, which was at home.

I guess my problem is I expect too much from Parker. When he has one of those big games, I start believing he's better than his skill set and expect those kind of performances on the regular. The 22 points on 49% shooting is all fine and good in the regular season and the first two or three games of a playoff series, but I can't recall off the top of my head a transcendent performance from Parker in a game 5, 6, or 7. He almost delivered last year in game 6 against the Thunder, but predictably faded, as usual. And on a team that hasn't had a legit superstar since '07, it's frustrating to be constantly teased like that.

_Jags auto response to that is something along the lines of fat mexican spurfan only likes Manu because he speaks spanish and hates Parker because he doesnt. Dead serious too tbh. Will be interesting to see what his response will be to you given your hatred of Mexicans and the Spanish language.

[midnightpulp]

_Jags auto response to that is something along the lines of fat mexican spurfan only likes Manu because he speaks spanish and hates Parker because he doesnt. Dead serious too tbh. Will be interesting to see what his response will be to you given your hatred of Mexicans and the Spanish language.

End of the day, our expectations for Parker are too high, and maybe a bit unfair.

You won't find any championship teams in the modern era with a 6 foot PG as their offensive centerpiece. The Bad Boy Pistons are the closest you'll get, but their suffocating defense covered up many of Isiah's limitations. Small point guards simply aren't capable of carrying the scoring load in addition to all of the other responsibilities they're tasked with (running the offense, ball handling, chasing around the opposing PG etc). It's why Parker always gets gassed at the end of games. Not to mention, a PG's impact on the defensive end can only go so far.

Typically, the PG should be the number 2 or even 3rd scoring option. Even the greatest PG of all-time had that luxury.

[AaronY]

Magic was really like a Lebron handled the ball all the time at 6'9 got guarded by wings often while Scott and Coop guarded a lot of the point guards..