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    If by "star" you mean top 10 big man, then yes, most people do consider him that. But if you mean a top 10-15 player, I don't think many would agree. He's definitely passed the franchise cornerstone phase. I think most people who overrate him forget how old he is. He's only a few months younger than Splitter, and Tiago has fewer NBA miles on him and a cleaner bill of health (surprisingly).

    What do you think would be a fair deal for him? I agree that Portland may demand more than what benefactor or I suggested, but I think that's more because the Blazers don't like dealing with the Spurs.
    I'd have to give it more thought than I'm willing to at the moment, but off the top of my head, let's say top 25, maybe 20.

    Tough to say for certain, but I think they'd want something along the lines of the haul the Nuggets got for Anthony or the Magic got for Howard. I'm not suggesting he's on their level, just that they'd want that soft of package.
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    Yea I just saw the money & his contract on hoopshype. But they are at 60 mil range in cap & still paying Roy. How do they afford Tiago when its expected teams will offer him up in the 10 mil per range.

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    Keep him. Decent big men are hard to find and he can improve. He played well in the regular season.

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    I don't understand why they'd move Aldridge and then outbid another team with cap for a center who is the same age (I think) and is less of a threat on the offense end. Also Hickson has played very well in the starting lineup and the 7'0 footer they drafted last season should be in line for at least 15-20 regular minutes per game. He, I'd imagine is considered the future given where they drafted him. His athleticism in a couple of years could make him and Lillard a nice pick and roll combo.
    I wouldn't go for Splitter or trade Aldridge if I were Portland. I'd try to keep Hickson, but apparently, they've made it pretty clear they don't want to keep him. They're also supposedly going for Splitter and Pek, so they don't seem sold on Leonard as the answer to the five at least this season. Maybe they think he's a four, and when they get a legitimate center, he'll be a good player to replace Aldridge. I don't know. In the end, they'll probably keep LA, and the Spurs will probably keep Splitter. I could see Tiago agreeing to a deal during the moratorium and not even visiting other teams. It's pretty safe to assume that the Spurs will bring back the same top seven or eight player if they have their druthers.

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    Leonard is a no go we all know, that let's stop acting like that's possible.
    And why in the would anyone want to rid the roster of a young, athletic player (Leonard) who has emerged as perhaps the Spurs next star player? I don't give a who is in the deal. Any such scenario would make no sense at all.

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    I can easily name 15 players better than Aldridge...Durant, James, Rose, Duncan, Love, Harden, Parker, Bryant, Melo, Curry, Wade, Dirk, Marc Gasol, Griffin, Paul.

    There's really no reason to overrate him. He's a good player but no one is giving full value for a 28 yr old perimeter big with an injury history.

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    Aldridge to the spurs would be a dream come true! Would fit the spurs system like a glove. AND he is a Texas boy!

    Would truly be the Dynamic Duo!

    Make it happen!!

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    Blazers need guards...so something like De Colo/Joseph/Bonner/Splitter on a new deal and next years first rounder?
    WTF you want to give away the entire house for 1 player? You are nuts.

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    Those guys can be replaced. They are backups. Aldridge is a legit starting big with the potential to put the Spurs back in the Finals yet again.

    All in all, I agree with Chinook. Spurs will re-sign Splitter and all this talk will be just for fun speculation.

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    there must be something in the water or air up there.....cause all the tall people seem to have bad knees.......Walton, Bowie, Oden, Aldridge, Pryzbilla
    The blazers' medical staff is legendarily bad...the anti-Phoenix

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    WTF you want to give away the entire house for 1 player? You are nuts.
    De Colo was a problem complaining about playing time. Bonner has been laying a turd in the playoffs for what 6 straight years now? Funny that coincides with the Spurs last le! May need Joseph but then again we stiil have Mills. Whatever makes it happen.

    Splitter is pretty awful, I've seen enough tbh. It would be on par with offloading for Jack to get any value for him compared to the dreaded possiblity of overpaying him.

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    So you are telling me the Blazers would rather pay 11-12 million for 28 year old Splitter than pay 15 million for 27 year old Aldridge? This idea has BS written all over it. Not getting my hopes up unless an actually story arises. Blazers are also committed to Batum for a while and to Matthews for 2 more seasons (at 7-8 mil per for Matthews) so its not like Kawhi or Green would fill needs for them. Not that the Spurs would ever put Kawhi on the table, but just in response to Rascal

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    Spurstalk, who would you rather have? Aldridge or Jefferson?

    Also, why is it that Portland has a hatred for San Antonio? I always hear it getting tossed around here, but why is it?

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    Have the Spurs seen enough of Tiago and would they do a sign and trade with Portland for the #10 like they did with George Hill and Indiana a couple of years ago?

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    there must be something in the water or air up there.....cause all the tall people seem to have bad knees.......Walton, Bowie, Oden, Aldridge, Pryzbilla
    It's not just tall people... remember Brandon Roy? Wesley Matthews already had some knee problems as well...

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    Spurstalk, who would you rather have? Aldridge or Jefferson?
    Also, why is it that Portland has a hatred for San Antonio? I always hear it getting tossed around here, but why is it?
    1999 western conference finals might have something to do with it.
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    Let Splitter walk. Give Nando a pay raise. Play Nando.............

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    Spurstalk, who would you rather have? Aldridge or Jefferson?
    Aldridge by a mile. i just don't see it though

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    I don't know why people assume the Blazers would be justified in asking for Leonard in exchange for Aldridge. For the most part, young players with both production and potential remain on their teams for at least their first two contracts. The closet examples of players of Leonard's ilk being moved are Eric Gordon and Ed Davis.

    Gordon was traded for Chris Paul, first off. So that's understandable. Aldridge is not of his caliber. Also the league got involved in that Paul trade, and that drove up the price immensely. Had Stern not stepped in, the Hornets would have gotten a bunch of scraps like Scola and Oden.

    Davis is the object of endless love from stat geeks but he has little actual production for being in the league as long as he has been. He's honestly closer to Anthony Randolph than he is to Kawhi Leonard. He was traded for a player of Aldridge's caliber in Rudy Gay, and now people are starting to say that the Grizzlies lost that deal. I don't agree, but unless this new coach features Davis, Ed won't really factor way people remember that deal much.

    So I don't think it's Leonard or bust for Portland. They have three small-forwards that already like, and they're desperate for a center. Despite people thinking otherwise, Splitter is good enough to headline a trade for Aldridge. The Spurs would just have to add more sweeteners than they'd like. But they won't have to even think of moving Kawhi.

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    I don't know why people assume the Blazers would be justified in asking for Leonard in exchange for Aldridge. For the most part, young players with both production and potential remain on their teams for at least their first two contracts. The closet examples of players of Leonard's ilk being moved are Eric Gordon and Ed Davis.

    Gordon was traded for Chris Paul, first off. So that's understandable. Aldridge is not of his caliber. Also the league got involved in that Paul trade, and that drove up the price immensely. Had Stern not stepped in, the Hornets would have gotten a bunch of scraps like Scola and Oden.

    Davis is the object of endless love from stat geeks but he has little actual production for being in the league as long as he has been. He's honestly closer to Anthony Randolph than he is to Kawhi Leonard. He was traded for a player of Aldridge's caliber in Rudy Gay, and now people are starting to say that the Grizzlies lost that deal. I don't agree, but unless this new coach features Davis, Ed won't really factor way people remember that deal much.

    So I don't think it's Leonard or bust for Portland. They have three small-forwards that already like, and they're desperate for a center. Despite people thinking otherwise, Splitter is good enough to headline a trade for Aldridge. The Spurs would just have to add more sweeteners than they'd like. But they won't have to even think of moving Kawhi.
    So you are telling me the Blazers would rather pay 11-12 million for 28 year old Splitter than pay 15 million for 27 year old Aldridge? This idea has BS written all over it. Not getting my hopes up unless an actually story arises.

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    If they want to throw a lot of $$$ at him, we should just let em take him. Splitter was a huge letdown in the finals.

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    Portland definitely might prefer to play Splitter $8 Million rather than Aldridge $15 Million. Also, they're only five months apart. They'll both be 28 at the start of next season. Aldridge also has injury issues.

    And 32-year-old Tayshaun Prince headlined the trade for 26-year-old Rudy Gay.

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    How about doing Splitter like we did George Hill and trading him (sign and trade) for the Blazers' 1st round pick this year? It would be the 10th overall pick so I don't know if Splitter would be enough for Portland to part with it so maybe we throw in our 1st pick or 2nd pick and call it a deal? I'd target C Cody Zeller from Indiana, which mock drafts have him going as far as 10th overall. He's athletic, can run the floor well, can score multiple ways, and was a decent defender in college. Zeller has been compared to Bosh and Aldridge so you wouldn't think Portland would rather have Splitter over him but stranger things have happened. Thoughts?

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    Portland definitely might prefer to play Splitter $8 Million rather than Aldridge $15 Million. Also, they're only five months apart. They'll both be 28 at the start of next season. Aldridge also has injury issues.

    And 32-year-old Tayshaun Prince headlined the trade for 26-year-old Rudy Gay.
    Going after Splitter might be plan B. Early rumors was that Portland wanted the Cav's first pick.

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    How about doing Splitter like we did George Hill and trading him (sign and trade) for the Blazers' 1st round pick this year? It would be the 10th overall pick so I don't know if Splitter would be enough for Portland to part with it so maybe we throw in our 1st pick or 2nd pick and call it a deal? I'd target C Cody Zeller from Indiana, which mock drafts have him going as far as 10th overall. He's athletic, can run the floor well, can score multiple ways, and was a decent defender in college. Zeller has been compared to Bosh and Aldridge so you wouldn't think Portland would rather have Splitter over him but stranger things have happened. Thoughts?
    You can't do draft-day trades with S&T players. You can legally trade a potential free agent, and the other team can't talk to the player and negotiate a contract until July. So the Spurs and Blazers couldn't agree to compensation for a Splitter S&T, because the Blazers couldn't work out a contract with Tiago then. Also, it would be poor form to agree to a deal that relies on a player choosing to go somewhere. If Splitter decides to go to Atlanta instead of Portland, the draft-day talk is all for naught.

    That doesn't meant Portland couldn't include whomever they draft as part of the compensation for Splitter in a sign-and-trade, though. That's certainly possible. However, I strongly doubt the Blazers do a sign-and-trade for Splitter unless it includes Aldridge. Portland has no incentive to help the Spurs out by giving them assets when they can sign Splitter outright.

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