2016-17 Draft: Spurs should trade Patty + Kyle/Boris to the Celtics (16th pick)

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Spurs aren't going to get better with draft picks. The only way is to trade players or get rid of bad players

[Tully365]

Why Boston? They have a logjam in the back court, and already have an issue with size & length (Isaiah Thomas at 5'9'/Bradley at 6'2")... I'd think they'd be one of the last teams looking for a SG in a PG's body.

[Kawhitstorm]

Why? PHILA needs a true PG and the Spurs a true Centre. Okafor is legit, young (20 y/o), averaged 17pts/7rebs and he's on a rookie contract. The Spurs could fill the PG spot with Conley and the SG spot with Batum. Granted not to a max contract.

PG - Conley
SG - Batum
SF - Kawhi
PF - LMA
C - Okafor

LMA/Okafor is unplayable against small-ball era.

[Keepin' it real]

Not all drafts are created equally, this draft is not that great.

Then why trade up?

[cd021]

Then why trade up?

Spurs do not need a star in the making, obviously getting one would be great but there are still players in this draft that could be starter material. At 16 that is usually the best case scenario.

If it were Patty and Diaw for the pick straight up then the Spurs would save $11.5 million.

[TheDoctor]

If Paddy and Diaw were so valuable, Spurs fans would want to keep them. What would Boston want with a broken down has-been PF who looks like he doesn't give two s on the court and an unclutch SG with a broken shot whom can't create offense for his teammates and plays wretched defense? Even if the draft is underwhelming, there's a better chance of finding some youngsters with more upside and potential at a fraction of the cost than bringing in a couple of overused vets that have very little to no upside. Boston is still building for the future so it's probably a best bet they wouldn't want to just throw their pick away.

LMAO Hoops Czar going ape on Boris and Patty.

[T Park]

Better idea would be to trade Diaw to New Orleans for the 36th and 40th picks.

They need a replacement for Anderson. Diaw is sort of a floor spacer (even though his mid range shooting percentage is mediocre and he does not take nearly enough 3's)

I think Gentry was on the coaching staff in Phoenix at the time Diaw was there.

Spurs would have three picks in the top 40,

You want to dump a productive forward for 2 second round picks?


Thank ing god you don't run this team.

[Spurs da champs]

You want to dump a productive forward for 2 second round picks?


Thank ing god you don't run this team.

[cd021]

If Paddy and Diaw were so valuable, Spurs fans would want to keep them. What would Boston want with a broken down has-been PF who looks like he doesn't give two s on the court and an unclutch SG with a broken shot whom can't create offense for his teammates and plays wretched defense? Even if the draft is underwhelming, there's a better chance of finding some youngsters with more upside and potential at a fraction of the cost than bringing in a couple of overused vets that have very little to no upside. Boston is still building for the future so it's probably a best bet they wouldn't want to just throw their pick away.

Boston is at the point where they have made so many first round selections

Bradley
Sullinger
Smart
Rossier
Brooklyn Pick

they either need a star or start cashing in some of their assets for vets to help them compete . This move does that. They Still have a top 7 pick and couple of second rounders, they are not going to be hurting for young prospects.

Using ST as a gauge of a Spurs value
people were burying Manu after the '13 finals before he had a big bounce back season and helped the spurs win a championship.

[cd021]

You want to dump a productive forward for 2 second round picks?


Thank ing god you don't run this team.

My trade has nothing to do with his actual play it has more to do with the cap. Spurs need to shed his cap to get anywhere near a top FA.

Diaw has apparently fallen out of favor of Pop. His minutes were way down and had DNP for the first time this year in an elimination game vs a team that he killed in '14. I think that the Spurs feel that KA can slide into his role next year and do much of what Diaw did but for a fraction of the price. the 39th and 40th picks would be great returns for a player the Spurs may not even want or need anymore.

[Hoops Czar]

Boston is at the point where they have made so many first round selections

Bradley
Sullinger
Smart
Rossier
Brooklyn Pick

they either need a star or start cashing in some of their assets for vets to help them compete . This move does that. They Still have a top 7 pick and couple of second rounders, they are not going to be hurting for young prospects.

Using ST as a gauge of a Spurs value
people were burying Manu after the '13 finals before he had a big bounce back season and helped the spurs win a championship.

Those so called vets couldn't even help the Spurs get out of the 2nd round. What makes you think they'll be an asset for Boston? I never use Spurstalk as a gauge for anything but you should heed your own advice when the forum cremes to Spurstalk proclaiming Kawhi as a top 2 player in the league. If I've learned anything from spending time here, it's everything posted in this forum should be taken with a grain of salt and 98.5% of the posts don't deserve a second read. This forum is for entertainment purposes only. If you're a fan of bad jokes, outrageous one-sided trade proposals, substandard English and Grammar, trolls, dabom (he deserves his own category), player fans and fake "insider" news and information, this sight is for you.

I do watch the games though and both Boris and Paddy looked awful. The problem with your trade proposal is that your not giving Boston enough incentive to pull the trigger. Maybe the Spurs would need to sweeten the pot by including Bonner and one of Boban or Simmons (over my dead body do they get both). Now, they have a guy in Bonner who can stretch the defense and another in Boban who can touch the rim without leaving the ground.

[tholdren]

Not in this draft. The only thing I would trade this for is Buddy. He's the only player in this draft. The league continues to get weaker with the turds that come out of college. NBA might as well draft out of the local rec leagues.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle alone is absolutely worth a mid first round pick. He's shown enough to be valued as a rotation player. Most of these picks will be out of the league in a year or two. If you look at the teams at 10-20 a lot of them could use a player like Kyle.

God damn it bro

[TheGreatYacht]

This is what will absolutely happen, 100% guaranteed:

1) Spurs will call-up a GM to trade up with
2) The opposing GM will follow along
3) RC will tell the GM what player to draft for him
4) Opposing GM will hang up and keep the player
5) Spurs draft and stash Mirzabojandikembe Motumbobogdanovicteletovic with the #29 pick

[TheDoctor]

This is what will absolutely happen, 100% guaranteed:

1) Spurs will call-up a GM to trade up with
2) The opposing GM will follow along
3) RC will tell the GM what player to draft for him
4) Opposing GM will hang up and keep the player
5) Spurs draft and stash Mirzabojandikembe Motumbobogdanovicteletovic with the #29 pick

Nailed it

[look_at_g_shred]

Could be a good deal, Boston would get a couple of bench vets with le experience.

Patty is trash

[DrunkTXLabrat]

yes

Look at the spurs roster. Consider that Manu has been a spur over a decade. How many players represent the success of draft and stash?

[tholdren]

Not in this draft. The only thing I would trade this for is Buddy. He's the only player in this draft. The league continues to get weaker with the turds that come out of college. NBA might as well draft out of the local rec leagues.

See above - shut thread down

[Vito Corleone]

A few years ago, the Spurs traded a role player for what is now a MVP contender and one of the top 5 players in the game. That type of trade gets GMs fired. I highly doubt the Celtics are going to do a trade with San Antonio for a bunch of role players that could come back to bite the GM in the Ass, especially if it means San Antonio gets another young star.

The likelihood of it happening are low, but more likely is the Spurs get a guy that might contribute, but GM's don't see it like that, they think in terms of the Spurs do everything right.

[Spurtacular]

Jimmer says, "Hi."

Remind me how well the role players shot for the Spurs in the OKC series; how'd they do from threes? You see that three from K-Mart? Ugliest shot I've ever seen. Spurs f'd up. Had a good thing and panicked.

[TheGreatYacht]

Remind me how well the role players shot for the Spurs in the OKC series; how'd they do from threes? You see that three from K-Mart? Ugliest shot I've ever seen. Spurs f'd up. Had a good thing and panicked.

Agreed. Simmons and Dre Miller needed more minutes