VIRAL VIDEO : Black Man Wants to Know Why Black Lives Matter Isn’t in Louisiana Helpi

[boutons_deux]

the two words have different meanings, you could look it up.

[CosmicCowboy]

Again, you missed the point. You are focusing on the meaning, and probably mean something other than what they do.

I am smart enough to see people talking past each other, as it happens all the time, especially in politics. I am trying to point out to you that difference in meaning, am not trying to trick you, or even change your mind, merely to point out that difference. In their own way I think they have a point. I think that if you can go along with a fair line of questioning, you might increase your understanding a bit.

My question remains:
Do police, in general, view black people differently that whites?

Some do, some don't. Considering the disproportionate murder/crime rate of blacks as opposed to their demographic percentage some police (including black officers) probably feel justified to do so.

[CosmicCowboy]

Some do, some don't. Considering the disproportionate murder/crime rate of blacks as opposed to their demographic percentage some police (including black officers) probably feel justified to do so.

That being said, the meaning of words is important. Systematic means what it means and if that is the word BLM intentionally used then that is ridiculous hyperbole.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Black people are systemically viewed as more likely to be dangerous and criminals for no reason

There are reasons and FBI crime statistics to back them up.

[tlongII]

Which is?

They seem mostly interchangeable to me, but I would be happy to correct the wording.

I mean a sense of something built into a system, i.e. part of a system.

FWIW:

http://grammarist.com/usage/systematic-systemic/

Let me know which you prefer, and why it is important.

Systemic describes something that happens or exists throughout a whole system.

He has a systemic infection.

The new police chief had to address systemic corruption.

Systematic describes something that was thorough and intentional, methodical, or implemented according to a plan.




Doctors began a systematic treatment plan.

Ending systematic discrimination was his first goal.


The difference is that systematic infers an intentional act.

[Chucho]

I have a theory:

Conservative politics attracts people who have poor critical thinking skills, are intellectually lazy, and very often dishonest. This is what I call the "intellectual rot" factor.

All I need to prove this is posts like yours. Every time you post stuff like this, it makes my case for me. Funny thing is, like the twoofers claiming 9-11 was an inside job, you can't help yourself. Even when I directly point out how and why you are being lazy and dishonest.

Evidence of a failure of critical thinking:

Strawman logical fallacy. http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

This is where you make up what someone believes, very often a wildly exaggerated distortion, then pick apart the distortion of what someone says or believes, and think you have defeated their position. You have fought a self-constructed a strawman target, as opposed to fighting an actual opponent.

The strawman fallacy is particularly flawed because in many cases it involves active dishonesty, i.e. actively fabricating a version of someone's beliefs.

Everytime you are asked for evidence, and fail to provide it, that is intellectually lazy, pretty much by definition. Every time you distort someones views, that is intellectually dishonest.

"tldr" = intellectually lazy

So once again, I am going to ask you to support your assertions, with anything that might be called evidence. We can start by examining your first assertion:

"[Black lives matter is a ] devisive, group of hate mongers hiding behind a facade of false pretenses."

Provide some evidence of this. Whatever you think is relevant to support it.

LOL. it made you go re-Google strawmen. Proof positive you didn't know what you were talking about. Just stop it, already. Admit you're a racist, you support a racial supremacy group and they don't do anything to help racial tensions. I will give you credit, you support the falseties to the death. Doesn't make you any better.

And for the record, I said tS;dr. As in TOO STUPID, DIDN'T READ. You can't debate objectively with a sworn racist like you. Moving on to other non-racist, LiberLOL tools...

[vy65]

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[vy65]

Culturally, criminality isn't being ingrained into black iden y. At all.

[RandomGuy]

If you don't recognize this I can't help you.

I mostly think I understand what you mean, but prefer to have it fleshed out to avoid misunderstanding. Not asking for the moon here.

[RandomGuy]

Culturally, criminality isn't being ingrained into black iden y. At all.

It is to some degree. It shouldn't be. I think we can agree on those points.

But then nihilism isn't restricted to african americans, either, e.g. death metal.

[RandomGuy]

LOL. it made you go re-Google strawmen. Proof positive you didn't know what you were talking about. Just stop it, already. Admit you're a racist, you support a racial supremacy group and they don't do anything to help racial tensions. I will give you credit, you support the falseties to the death. Doesn't make you any better.

And for the record, I said tS;dr. As in TOO STUPID, DIDN'T READ. You can't debate objectively with a sworn racist like you. Moving on to other non-racist, LiberLOL tools...

So you can't provide any evidence. Why not just say so at the start?

[RandomGuy]

I have a theory:

Conservative politics attracts people who have poor critical thinking skills, are intellectually lazy, and very often dishonest. This is what I call the "intellectual rot" factor.

All I need to prove this is posts like yours.

...

Provide some evidence of [your main assertion]. Whatever you think is relevant to support it.

[you are a racist][no evidence provided]

Like I said, you are so used to your information bubble, just like the 9-11 twoofers, that you fail spectacularly the first time someone who isn't lazy and takes personal responsibility asks you a basic critical thinking question.

[RandomGuy]

Systemic describes something that happens or exists throughout a whole system.

He has a systemic infection.

The new police chief had to address systemic corruption.

Systematic describes something that was thorough and intentional, methodical, or implemented according to a plan.




Doctors began a systematic treatment plan.

Ending systematic discrimination was his first goal.


The difference is that systematic infers an intentional act.

Ok, I can buy that, thanks. In that way, I do think the BLM quote is a bit off base when they use "systematic", as applied to every law enforcement agency.

Have you read the DOJ report on Baltimores PD? would you qualify those problems as "systematic" or "systemic". Seems like that case could plausibly be the former.

[vy65]

It is to some degree. It shouldn't be. I think we can agree on those points.

But then nihilism isn't restricted to african americans, either, e.g. death metal.

Apples to oranges comparison. Better example would be white supremacist punk -- but that genre isn't nearly as prevalent amongst whites as rap is with blacks.

[Winehole23]

It needn't be. Racism is ingrained in schools, the workplace, law enforcement and the courts --white supremacist punk rock would be a superfluity. Everyday reality instantiates white supremacy.

[Winehole23]

I'll go one further: much of the so called culture of black criminality amounts to self-reliance and resistance to, structural injustice.

[RandomGuy]

I'll go one further: much of the so called culture of black criminality amounts to self-reliance and resistance to, structural injustice.

+1

BLM does have some ground of legitimate grievances.

The hysteria over BLM is way overstated, just as the BLM quote is somewhat hyperbolic.

Racism is not dead in the US, and you can't say that shooting a man in the back, or letting a guy who is telling you "I can't breathe" die is in any way justfied by any amount of gangsta rap.

[RandomGuy]

It needn't be. Racism is ingrained in schools, the workplace, law enforcement and the courts --white supremacist punk rock would be a superfluity. Everyday reality instantiates white supremacy.

+1

racism doesn't have to be the overt ranting kind either. The subtle, but unconscious view that all black men are dangerous can still be dangerous.

[TeyshaBlue]

+1

racism doesn't have to be the overt ranting kind either. The subtle, but unconscious view that all black men are dangerous can still be dangerous.

Or in education, incapable.

[RandomGuy]

Or in education, incapable.

Well put.

A lot has to be fixed in black communities. I think Trump has a point that Democrats haven't done enough. We haven't. Neither have we served the Hispanics that vote for us either.

In the end though, people know when someone at least has a clue.

We reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton which panders to and talks down to communities of color

"You're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58% of your youth is unemployed -- what the do you have to lose?"

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well put.

A lot has to be fixed in black communities. I think Trump has a point that Democrats haven't done enough. We haven't. Neither have we served the Hispanics that vote for us either.

In the end though, people know when someone at least has a clue.

Created in 2012, the Black Republican Committee of Durham was established as an outreach subcommittee of the Durham GOP to embrace conservative African American residents of Durham, County. Since that time, the number of registered black Republicans has grown by 30%.

[russellgoat]

+1

BLM does have some ground of legitimate grievances.

The hysteria over BLM is way overstated, just as the BLM quote is somewhat hyperbolic.

Racism is not dead in the US, and you can't say that shooting a man in the back, or letting a guy who is telling you "I can't breathe" die is in any way justfied by any amount of gangsta rap.

Well, Eric Garner death was in part because of Big Anti-Tobacco policies that makes it tempting for a person looking for a few bucks to sell cigarettes by their own.