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    Ibaka is gone ^

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    I do wish SA could have gotten Eric Gordon though

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    As bad as OKC's frontline shat on the Spurs last year, it could be even worse this year.
    It's extremely unlikely that the Spurs would get outrebounded by a lot this season. Dedmon and Lee are such an improvement over Diaw and West.

    Spurs can limit Westbrook (and Harden to a lesser extent) but the officiating could be even worse than last year's series. Westbrook shooting 20 freebies a game will give him the chance to rest in-game and limit the time he has to be off the court.
    That's all well and good, but the Spurs are a lot better able to avoid that fate than most teams are. The rest would be a factor, but the fact that he has no second option would be a bigger one. They don't even have Ibaka this season.

    The Jazz, if healthy, definitely worry me; Spurs will have the two best players in the series, but then the Jazz might have the next 3-5 best players potentially; it could be a 2014 Spurs/OKC-type series.
    I don't love how Utah is coached right now, but even ignoring that, I think comparing the 2014 Spurs with the 2017 Jazz is way generous for Utah. That Spurs team have four HoF locks on it with another strong candidate on the rise, in addition to a cast who had just been battle-tested in the Finals. For most of the #JazzCore, it will be their first series.

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    I remember someone wanted dworst as our starting center.

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    After watching the playoffs.


    Same poster was a fathead slurper.

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    Hopefully our new guys won't lose the battle on the boards against OKC this time.

    But I still can see Spurs having a hard time trying to cover Parker-Pau defense in P&Rs...We should thank God for the lack of elite guards who excel at exploiting those weaknesses in the Western Conference, right?

    I'd love to know what alternative strategy Pop will implement to hide Pau defense in playoffs when he refuses to play Dedmon more minutes in the regular season to improve and gain experience.

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    How many problems can a team with the 2nd best record have?

    You can have many. got.

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    Hopefully our new guys won't lose the battle on the boards against OKC this time.

    But I still can see Spurs having a hard time trying to cover Parker-Pau defense in P&Rs...We should thank God for the lack of elite guards who excel at exploiting those weaknesses in the Western Conference, right?

    I'd love to know what alternative strategy Pop will implement to hide Pau defense in playoffs when he refuses to play Dedmon more minutes in the regular season to improve and gain experience.
    Well, with Ibaka gone and with how bad Tim was against OKC on both ends most of the time, just having a little extra offense from Pau should help. Then like Chinook mentioned, Lee/Dedmon >> West/Boris.

    Then SA doesn't have KD to deal with obviously

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    Tbh I'm not sure. I just don't like what I see with this team when they play other top teams in the league. People like to downplay the regular season but the past couple of seasons we had basically zero signature wins in the regular season and we all know how the playoffs turned out. If I see some convincing wins against the cavs/dubs/clips then I might have a change of opinion.
    You also have to remember 2014's regular season:

    0-4 against the Thunder
    2-1 against the Clippers
    0-4 against the Rockets
    2-2 against the Blazers
    1-1 against the Pacers
    1-1 against the Heat
    1-1 agains the Bulls

    7-14 against the top teams that season. Nothing to write home about, but we all know how the playoffs turned out..

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    That Spurs team have four HoF locks on it with another strong candidate on the rise, in addition to a cast who had just been battle-tested in the Finals. For most of the #JazzCore, it will be their first series.
    Like it means something...The Spurs had 3 last season and still 2 of them underperformed against OKC.

    And it's likely that the same 2 old guards will repeat that poor play in the postseason again.

    That's the issue when a team decided to sign/resign two olds guards to compete against elite, younger, stronger and faster guards.

    The Spurs can take Westbrook and Harden out of a series -- they have the personnel to do that
    WHO??
    Harden will play 45 mpg Danny just 27, Kawhi 32.

    And it's likely that Pop will continue sitting both at the same time for many minutes like OKC last playoffs... It wasn't pretty to watch Manu against Russ and it won't be better this year.

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    Dude ^

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    Well, with Ibaka gone and with how bad Tim was against OKC on both ends most of the time, just having a little extra offense from Pau should help. Then like Chinook mentioned, Lee/Dedmon >> West/Boris.

    Then SA doesn't have KD to deal with obviously
    I'm optimistic and love the optimistic persons too. But at some point, a bit of realism doesn't hurt.

    If it's not Westbrook, will be CP3, Harden, or any other elite guard who will beat Pau consistently and Pop won't have answers...Then people will say 'well, he didn't have the personnel to win that battle' like they said after OKC out-rebounded Spurs.

    But the issue is he could have that personnel if he would make the right decisions before the trade deadline. We know he won't do it but we shouldn't act like he doesn't have options.

    I do wish SA could have gotten Eric Gordon though
    Well, that happens when a team decides to give 14M to a 39 years old guard instead of looking to get younger and signing Gordon for 13M like Houston.

    PATFO had options but I agree with Rob, they made the wrong decisions.
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    How many problems can a team with the 2nd best record have?


    Yea, OP's a pretty big got.

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    We are the two seed and btfo of GSW on their own court on opening night. Just enjoy the season of us kicking ass and see what happens in the playoffs. RRT hasn't even happened yet and you want to bash tf out of certain players because they aren't performing 10/10 night in and night out? Am I the only one that is ok with how Gasol is playing? He's been nailing his mid-range shot and that's been huge for us when Kawhi isn't on and Parker can't get to the rim. I personally think we have been playing fine (not perfect) and know that every team has weaknesses, so I'm ok with a 27-7 record and only 2 GB from a team that's filled with 4 SUPERstars in it's main lineup. When playoffs roll around anything can happen. Stay positive and GSG!

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    Is there something wrong?

    Do you think that Pop will play Kawhi 40 mpg in playoffs or he will overplay Danny? He won't.
    Kawhi played 33 mpg last playoffs and 35 in 2015. Danny 26 and 29.

    Do you think that the Spurs can rely on Parker and Manu at this stage of their careers to compete against the Curry, CP3, Harden, Westbrook of the WC?

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    Is there something wrong?

    Do you think that Pop will play Kawhi 40 mpg in playoffs or he will overplay Danny? He won't.
    Kawhi played 33 mpg last playoffs and 35 in 2015. Danny 26 and 29.

    Do you think that the Spurs can rely on Parker and Manu at this stage of their careers to compete against the Curry, CP3, Harden, Westbrook of the WC?
    I think we can hang, we beat GSW by quite a bit on opening night and while we struggled with Houston, I firmly believe we are the better team, I think we can hang. I think we can rely on the players mentioned to compete.
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    We were up 3-1 against OKC before Waiters was allowed to push Manu... they've lost KD, I think we can hang. We beat GSW by quite a bit on opening night, I think we can hang. We struggled with Houston but I firmly believe we are the better team, I think we can hang. So yes, I think we can rely on the players mentioned to compete.
    I think you missed Manu's first game against Clippers/Rockets this season or Parker 1-8 against Clippers or 8 pts 1 ast in last game vs Rockets but it's fine because I wouldn't recommend to rewatch them.

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    We were up 3-1 against OKC before Waiters was allowed to push Manu...
    What?

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    I think you missed Manu's first game against Clippers/Rockets this season or Parker 1-8 against Clippers or 8 pts 1 ast in last game vs Rockets but it's fine because I wouldn't recommend to rewatch them.
    Kawhi went 5-18 against Detroit, I personally don't think that makes him unreliable and I don't think Tony or Manu are unreliable because of those games neither. Players will have their good games and bad games, but I don't think choosing a game outside their average makes them more or less reliable than what they average.

    I don't think Parker and Manu are our x-factors and maybe thats where we differ in opinion. I think this team will go as far as our frontcourt takes us and players like Parker and Manu have a smaller role where, that pretty much if they don't things up, we will be ok. I don't think they will be so bad to ruin our season or a playoff series, just my opinion.

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    Nvm, lmfao
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    Don't worry. You have to wrong another 100 times in one year to catch up to that guy.

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    Don't worry. You have to wrong another 100 times in one year to catch up to that guy.
    everybody, pay attention to dabom or he'll have to start another thread

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    everybody, pay attention to dabom or he'll have to start another thread
    A thread with no content, no explanation and that is about the "future" so its pointless to discuss now.

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    You can't be the best team every single year. The spurs have been the best team over all sports the past couple decades. Sooner or later, spurfan should appreciate them, or go be gsw fan for the 5 years they'll be relevant.

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    Kawhi went 5-18 against Detroit, I personally don't think that makes him unreliable and I don't think Tony or Manu are unreliable because of those games neither. Players will have their good games and bad games, but I don't think choosing a game outside their average makes them more or less reliable than what they average.
    If Kawhi has a bad game against Detroit I would say 'Damn he played like ...Move on'

    But Manu and Parker having bad games against direct playoffs rivals is concerning.
    They aren't young like Kawhi, they aren't dominant on defense if shots aren't falling like him, hey...they aren't Kawhi/LMA.

    Parker and Manu have a smaller role
    Well, that's the problem, they don't have small roles on this team.

    Parker is taking more shots than Kawhi or LMA in the last 4 games, Manu is playing 20 mpg...And Pop won't limit their roles in playoffs, he opted to have both old guards on the team and will ride or died with them again.

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