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Actually glad to see you changed your mind on White I told you he was going to be good.
I don’t see it as Murray vs White as I see both can see the floor together
No one gives a what you think, bruh. You can believe whatever you want, but if you don't want to come off as a butt-hurt, disingenuous player-fan, you don't go all confirmation-biasy and ignore posts that don't fit your narrative. You're the only one who took what I said as an attack. That you cause you to reexamine how you're reading situations, instead of thinking you're the sole bastion of reason.
Actually glad to see you changed your mind on White I told you he was going to be good.
I don’t see it as Murray vs White as I see both can see the floor together
Likewise but I like calling out bull when I read it. It’s ok that you don’t like Murray so get off your I praise him to shtick as some kind of validation of your asinine arguments.
Hate these kind of threads tho. It's not new for spurstalk. Going back to the old Tony vs Manu.
Why can't we enjoy having both guys in the team and appreciate both. More power to the Spurs with both guys.
Read it again. I clearly said it had nothing to do with his skill set. Just a comparison to role.
Me neither. No need for playerfan controversy. Kind of hate that aspect about playerfanning.
Last edited by SAGirl; 11-11-2018 at 05:14 PM.
I think they won't get rid of Paddy just to get rid of his minutes. Pop likes him too much and he's not a cancerous player, rather a reported good locker room presence.
But hopefully as others are better than him, his minutes decrease and he takes the role Pop wanted for Tony (mentor and unguaranteed minutes). He makes too much money for that but that's a sunk cost by the FO. Perhaps he gets traded toward the end of his contract if he wants to play more minutes somewhere else or something, kinda like Tony too.
Probably not gonna be able to keep all 4 for "years to come." Egos and money typically get in the way of keeping several young guys competing for minutes on the same career time-line.
This aint about pitting these guys against each other. Its about whats best for the team.
Its small sample size, yet its obvious , one guy plays the role of a PG to a tee. the other masquerades as one, is inconsistent from outside and is currently injured.
people are taking this thread the wrong way.
they can coexist but it's advantageous for each player to play the point.
didn't watch the rockets game so i've still yet to be able to gauge white... but if OP is right:
-murray won't be pleased with coming off the bench next year when he was handed the reins this year
-white won't be pleased with coming off the bench after potentially showing a season's worth of more promise than murray
There's no point to the thread this season bc one guy is injured. I pointed this out b4.
White will have an entire season to build up his game this year and get experience and then next season is a different story but this year? It's pointless...
It may even become a moot point if Murray comes back next season and needs time to get a rhythm, etc.
Last edited by SAGirl; 11-11-2018 at 11:28 PM.
Since Murray didn’t get to play this season we have no idea how he’d of done with this group and with his off-season work.
Have faith in me my brother.
we’ll see what happens next season...
Who gives a ? Lots of bigger and better players went to the bench in NBA history, thats how the game works.
If an Olympic Gold medalist,NBA champion,future hall of famer like Manu Ginobili has no problem coming off the bench for Bowen and Green i'm somewhere between "take your head out off your asses" and "shut the up and play ball" if either White or Murray has a problem with coming off the bench.
Its really amazing to see people debating over such dumbass things.
"Who is going to play PG though, Derrick or Dejounte?"
" Trade Murray now, White is better."
Labeled positions DO NOT MATTER, skillsets dictate roles and both have very versatile skillsets to where both can do great things with the ball and both can do really good things off the ball. BOTH are not defensive liabilities and are elite on defense -- Murray elite guarding PGs, White elite guarding any wing.
Both can play together. Both can take turns bringing the ball up vs set D -- thats a small task anyway.
Offensive responsibilities will intertwine and change possession from possession because of their versatility. Some plays Derrick will initiate, some DJ. Both can do a lot of good things on or off the ball.
Within the halfcourt offense, and with ball movement off PnRs/DHOs/secondary playmaking/penetration off close outs, both will get their fair share of moments on/off the ball. Both will excel. Whoever is on, go to them more often as the game progresses as the initial playmaker.
Both can excel together. Stop the stupidity.
I've always said I see DJ as more of a 6th man a la Jamal Crawford rather than a starter. White/Forbes is looking like our starting backcourt for the foreseeable future.
this is the 2nd dumbest thread on this forum after all those Kawhi threads
Why, you think Murray > White?
Never understand comparing players on the same team. You need to compare players against who they are going to play against.
white's ceiling is higher. he has a lot of brandon roy in him.
i'm glad we have potential to have one of the top defensive backcourts in the league.
lol this forum. It's like the flavor of the day. Earlier in the season it was like fathead this fathead that. Crucifying the guy. Now he's the second coming. I always thought Derrik White had a lot of potential, and now he's starting to live up to it, but Murray is damn good also.
People only see what they want to see. Murray can get to wherever he wants to on the floor. His quickness was second to none. His defense was coming on strong, and rebounding is amazing for the point guard position. He's strong mentally. Does his outside shot need work? Ofcourse, but all players have strengths and weaknesses and these things can be developed.
They both can coexist and I think that's what was intended. DW can be an outright combo guard, but taking it further I don't think Pop is interested in classifications. He probably likes the versatility of changing up the Point on the fly once both players are at a point in development when they can coexist on the court.
Ofcourse, the acl injury is a setback for Murray, but just have to wait and see how he comes back from it. He's young so I think he can overcome.
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