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he said he had a muscle injury in the tournament so maybe he took time to rehab?
Are you really comparing giving a bottle of wine to someone, to going to some place and give a gun to a friend who asked you to bring it here?
he said he had a muscle injury in the tournament so maybe he took time to rehab?
There are vids showing at least some of his interviews aren't bad. This may be overblown.
I’m making a point about chain of custody and responsibility. In relation to the law. Especially when it comes to a situation where the entire chain of communication was available to the police and not one single text pointed to intent or knowledge of what ended up happening.
It looks like even Miles didn’t know what was going to happen until after the shooter took custody of the gun.
So while I’ll agree that it’s not the smartest choice by Miller it’s a long ways away from any culpability in the murder.
It’s not illegal to give a gun a friend. Then have that friend give the gun to a 3rd person.
Me personally. I think we should have laws about lending firearms to friends or really anyone. But this is not the world we live in and it’s disingenuous to attempt make Miller responsible when he operated within the law, did nothing wrong and had no prior knowledge.
Just like my example.
Sorry. To answer your question. Yes. Abso inglutely. Because that is the culture we have created in society. The gun is as arbitrary as the bottle of wine or a cup of milk. There is not additional accountability with a gun as anything else. I can legally give you my gun just like I can give you an extra pair of pants if you piss yourself.
There is no additional distinction for the gun.
Again, for me. I don’t like that. I think there should be a significantly greater level of accountability. But I’m not a ammosexual gun nutter . But that’s what we’ve put in office and allowed to control the current policies.
Don’t like it. Vote. Tell your friends to vote and shame gunsexual assholes who think a gun is no different than a bottle of wine or a t-shirt.
You're parroting NRA talking points and not doing a very good job. The equivalency between a gun and alcohol is so you act like because they can change hands in similar fashion they should be handled the same way.
And as a matter of fact, you had better hope for a distinction for the gun because alcohol possession and distribution is highly regulated. A bartender who overserves absolutely is liable
That is why the NRA makes taht argument with something innocuous like a knife because when you start looking at how other things are regulated it becomes evident how fraught your position is.
I’m not a gun advocate or an nra fan. I’m acknowledging reality.
The bar is not responsible if the guy gets drunk at the bar then goes to his friends house and drinks more then does something stupid.
Don’t misinterpret my understanding of reality for supporting it.
I also don’t give a if you like my analogy or not. The point is valid. No reason to be a and want to split hairs over semantics.
If you give a family member your gun and they give it to another person without your knowledge you’re legally not responsible. Especially if the establishing communication shows that you had zero knowledge of intent.
Let me tell you. This happens all the time with white people.
Let me borrow your gun Fuzzy. Okay Doug. Here. Then Doug gives the gun to someone else and they rob a store.
You’re not responsible. In most states. Including Texas.
Don’t ing blame me for that stupidity. I don’t make the policies.
But I will say this. Miller had no knowledge of a potential crime. That was established immediately with the texts handed over.
You are parroting a NRA talking point badly. You are hardly the first with the chain of custody equivalency end around. You can claim to be whatever you like.
the nra. I’m not a gunsexual ammo licking . who thinks we should hand guns to anyone. But don’t criminalize the black kid when these same laws protect this kind of irresponsible gun ownership everywhere else.
Your issue isn’t Brandon Miller. It’s conservatives gop gun nutters who carry water for the nra.
But oddly your taking issue with Miller who actually had no knowledge that a crime would be committed instead of the politicians that don’t create common sense gun laws that restrict peoples ability to freely pass their guns around without accountability.
If there were laws that said you have to register your gun and cannot hand your firearm to anyone under any cir stances or it’s a felony. The at least you run the chance that Miller thinks twice about breaking “that” law.
Whereas in this reality. He had no reason to not let his buddy have the gun. Because there was law against that.
I'm not informed enough on the matter so as to make a confident assessment on his culpability in the murder. Then again, I'm a foreign basketball fan living thousands of miles away from the US, so debating US gun laws or general political issues doesn't concern me and I'll refrain from doing so.
With that said, even if not illegal, delivering a gun in shady cir stances to a third party and not realizing the potential ramifications speaks volume of his decision making process. I probably had better judgement by age 10. Then you have the pat down routine at a game shortly after the event, which (if not callous) would take Forrest Gump like levels of cluelessness. So again, either this guy is a psychopath or his judgement is seriously impaired. Either way, I'd stay the f*ck away from him.
Like you I wouldn’t be giving a gun to another person. Really under any cir stances.
What we have here is the normalization of gun culture. If you grow up being told that guns aren’t the problem. That guns are as normal as apple pie. That a gun is your god given right. That a gun is something that can freely be swapped amongst friends. With an entire political party rolling back gun laws. Advocating for gun sales and normalizing a firearm like a cup of coffee.
Then you get how a guy would think absolutely nothing of lending a gun to a friend.
One thing these people should never be allowed to do. Is normalize gun culture then question someone’s judgement when they operated within the law… in a society that goes out of its way to create zero accountability.
Miller is a byproduct of this society and culture. He’s hardly the one to blame.
I’m on the record that Miller Will probably have a career free of drama like this.
Meanwhile we’ll still have no accountability in the US.
My issue is you using the NRA talking point. The chain of custody argument is a common NRA talking point. I have said nothing else other than that.
You should examine your cognitive dissonance as opposed to making up stories about me.
Don’t jump to conclusions that I’m an advocate for the NRA. I’ll repeat it because it is reality.
Doesn’t mean I support it. But I’m not going to support holding Miller to a different set of standards than everyone else.
Take issue with the NRA or the policy makers instead of throwing shade my way.
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