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As I already directly responded to you, his Orlando workout was a handle/passing disaster, leading them to select Banchero. He’s not a wing, but he is nearly a perfect modern PF.
Jabari failed utterly in handle and passing in his Orlando workouts, leading to them selecting Banchero. You’d have two big guys in that lineup who can’t handle or pass.
As I already directly responded to you, his Orlando workout was a handle/passing disaster, leading them to select Banchero. He’s not a wing, but he is nearly a perfect modern PF.
I didn't say he was an ideal SF. But he can play and guard at that position, just like Sarr can play and guard at the PF. Today's PF is yesteryear's traditional SF. He can do dribble drive and kickouts, can shoot the 3 well, and is long and athletic enough to defend decently in the perimeter. You have Green and Thompson as good handlers and playmakers, not to mention Sengun is a decent ball handler and playmaker. I understand your point but the upside of that lineup is something you just dismiss out right.
Sarr's best landing spot is Washington since he has the freedom there to around and figure things out through trial and error, and will have a long leash because that team has no bigs and no direction anyway.
Apparently the reason he's made himself unavailable to the Hawks is that he sees himself as a 4, not a 5, and the Hawks already have Jalen Johnson in place there. He doesnt see himself as a Capela replacement. Sounds a lot like Castle with the whole "hes not working out for teams with point guards in place" stuff.
While Sarr's outside shot isn't there yet, its not a stretch that he'll become at least the shooter Sochan is, if thats a level of shooting we are content with at the 4. While the short term fit isnt clear just yet, he's still very much worth taking a bet on at #4 if other targets like Sheppard are already gone
Sarr vs Risacher, I take Risacher. Sarr versus anyone else, I'd take Sarr.
Sochan moves to the bench (or the 3) in that case, which would probably be good for his development.
Word is that no other team scouted Sarr more than Washington. The mockers suggesting interest elsewhere (read: Castle) are probably just trying things out.
I see it right now as:
Clingan
Sarr
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With Houston presumably going for Sheppard. If Charlotte trades up, I think they still want Sheppard. This leaves the big question of the day whether the Spurs actually like Risacher or if they'd go Castle.
His agent has spent all week trying to burn the bridge to Atlanta down before they can build it so I'd be surprised if they draft him.
He has the same agent Luka did when he was drafted, who also steered him away from Atlanta for whatever reason
Atlanta is an awful place to live and has an even tier fanbase.
Hey guys how about Wemby + 4 + 8 + ATL 25 + ATL27 + all of our Larry OBrien trophies to WAS so that we can take Sarr?
Who besides rascal says yes?
Become at least the shooter Sochan is is a pretty lowly goal for a guy you might draft #1
Should probably include Vassell too
Need to hold on to Vassell so I can trade him for pick #49 and take Cam Spencer (after I’ve sold #35 and #48 for Cash Considerations)
for the record i think he almost certainly winds up a better shooter than sochan, but it takes some projectionBecome at least the shooter Sochan is is a pretty lowly goal for a guy you might draft #1
interesting. I always wondered why Atlanta wanted Trae over Luka. Thanks for the insight. Looks like Atlanta can do the same thing or could trying to be publicly stating they are looking at Clingan and obviously Sarr is for sale now. Would love if they drafted Sarr and Spurs picked up Clingan so they could trade with each other. I can see a lot of teams wanting to trade up for Sarr.
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I actually think his best landing spot is with the Spurs and he and/or his agent is trying to angle him here. He would walk in the starting 4 over Jeremy and be playing next to a another French player spoon feeding him shots. Sarr and Wemby are a no brainer pairing on both sides of the ball.
I think the primary problem he sees in Atlanta is they are in "win now" mode which for rookies means set screens crash the boards catch lobs and get yelled at by veterans. Similar to what the Warriors did to Wiseman and what the Suns semi did to Ayton.
i dont think sarr would start over sochan right away. right now he'd be an even worse floor spacer than sochan because he's not as comfortable a ballhandler or passer, nor is he any better as a shooter.
but a good rim protector with defensive range off the bench who could eventually develop enough of a perimeter game to play alongside wemby would be something
I'd be disappointed if he didn't start over Jeremy right away, but if you've seen any of my post, I'm not really a fan of Jeremy, which is why I would want Sarr as the pick. I don't think Jeremy has any upside to his game as a tweener forward who doesn't really do anything that impacts winning, where I think Sarr has enough of an offensive game that I think he could develop into a decent offensive player. And playing next to Victor we just need him to be decent. I also like some 4 and 5 pick and roll action because most teams defend it horribly, it would be something unique to the Spurs that over time would give them an advantage over most teams.
Yup. Sarr was pretty much a lock for number one across most draft boards until they started snubbing Atlanta and pushing into Washington. Rarely does a no.1 pick get benched his first year.
It's not like the Spurs are an established squad that are not going to be going through a lot of trial and error trying to figure out how to compete and win games.
At least in SA, he would not have the expectations because of Wemby as opposed to a squad that had no one worth a .
DET has been hot for ZR, but him dropping to 5 was the challenge there. At a minimum, if Zar is there at 4, I hope the Spurs extract an asset from DET to swap picks.
i actually think it is preposterous to think any rookie would start over sochan. I mean the guy is at the start of a breakout and has clearly grown to be our primary on ball defender.
Sarr didn't even start for his NBL team, a league way behind the NBA. He has a long way to go before he can become a full time starter even at the level of Sochan. People just wayside clips packages and make assumptions about players only from those videos.
Sarr has more physical tools to work with than Sochan so more upside. You think Sochan would be considered for the top pick in this draft?
Sochan averaged all of 12/3ast/6reb on a whopping 43.8% FG percentage, 30% on 3s. Opponents actually shot higher on 2pters when he was on the floor (source). Their 3PT percentage did drop from 40 to 37 with him on, but it's not like that's all his doing considering he plays the 4.
His assist rate is also definitely inflated by his time at PG, which was a massive failure as we all know, so one can assume he won't top that mark again next season.
Nice try acting like last season didn't happen, but it did, and Sochan wasn't good. He's replaceable, including by one of our draft picks. Perhaps Sarr doesn't get the gig at the very beginning, only because it's Pop, not because Sochan is this irreplaceable starter.
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