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Booby Vassell?Already feels eerily similar to the 2004-2010 Cavs era..
My understanding is a lot of those seats are owned by corporate accounts, not die-hard fans.
They come late and leave early, if they even show up at all...and are so goddamn expensive that your common fan probably can't afford them anyways.
Booby Vassell?Already feels eerily similar to the 2004-2010 Cavs era..
right now mayve 2004-2006 cavs. Needs MVP wemby to be compared with 2009 and 2010 cavs. And also wemby needs to carry this scrubteam to be compared to 2007 cavs.Already feels eerily similar to the 2004-2010 Cavs era..
Add a generational talent exploding like a rocket to a basement team? Yeah. Sure.Already feels eerily similar to the 2004-2010 Cavs era..
Difference is Cavs had few assets. And then none. If the Spurs act like a lot of people on this board want them to act -- start burning assets for short-term 'solutions,' then this will be the way to become the LeBron Cavs. Vic can't even legally drink in the US until about a week from now.
This situation taught us some valuable lessons I think. I thought for sure back then that free agents and solid vets would want to team up with this young emerging superstar, but that scenario never materialized. I have to wonder what the situation would be for stars or near stars in the NBA now-- would they want to pair up with a young French guy who reads sci fi novels, playing in a relatively unglamorous city in Texas? This stuff is always so hard to judge. New Orleans is one of my favorite cities in the US, but NBA players routinely talk about it being a place they either don't enjoy being in, or have little desire to experience again.
And you never want to use those assets for ANYBODY. Just shut up, dude. If Doncic was available, you’d find something to nitpick about. It’s an idiotic paradox you’re in because you cling to nobodies like Collins and Branham and find something to about any player that’s available in the league.
You can’t even name any players right now that you’d trade for. There’s a happy middle here. You’re so loud and obnoxious about others having an opinion when you can’t be even aware of your own unreasonably extreme opinions.
We need to Soft tank. This is the last opportunity we’ll have before Wemby/Castle is too good for us to lose enough games. One last good swing at the lottery.
This. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the teenage puberty years of this team’s growth. It’s awkward, frustrating, and emo. And most annoying of all, it requires continued patience. It felt much easier last year to just be flat-out bad, but marvel at Wemby’s abilities and future potential, with good draft picks on the horizon. Now that we have a taste of success (in season 2!), we want more, but it’s never that quick and easy.
As for our individual players, I agree with most that Wemby Sochan Castle Champ Bassey are the keepers. Vassell KJ are good, not great, and have shown 90% of their total potential. Their contracts make them more valuable as trade pieces than #3-5 options on a championship team. KJ even less so, he’s just been a liability with the ball in his hands.
I like most of you worry that CP3 (and to a lesser extent, HB) isn’t in our long-term or even mid-term future, when looking at current playing time and total team wins. But I have to remind myself that the trade-off of CP3’s tutelage is absolutely worth it. Our long term keepers (Wemby, Sochan, Castle, Champ, Bassey) are receiving invaluable growth lessons that will pay dividends for us their entire career. And guys, every position in the draft helps - we’re not winnin a chip this year.
Everyone else speaks for themselves. Most don’t have the shooting, defense, or both to realistically be worth investing in from here on out (Mamu please stay on a cheap contract). I wish them the best of course. We will replace with FRPs, and hopefully some FAs and trades.
Last but not least, I’m honestly shocked that Wemby is this good, this early. After his ROY intro, I knew he’d get better in season 2, but I honestly didn’t dream of what he’s doing right now. Feels like 30+pts and 5+blks are guaranteed lately. Just insane. Pinch me moment. I don’t want to preach, but I’ll just say I personally am trying to stay present and grateful for what we’re witnessing, vs getting too caught up in “why aren’t we even better yet.”
The vast majority of ST hates both with a passion, so that isn’t even a worry.My thoughts are I hope PATFO aren't as emotionally attached to Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson as SpursTalk/Spurs Twitter.
but they've been here a really long time
Dude, keep your pants zipped.
LMFAO. Are you one of the clowns who want to burn Sochan and a First for a 28 year old playing for a losing team? Who won't be good in three years?
Good Christ, get a ing grip. The franchise has made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR they are planning for the next decade, not to please you toddler-attention-span mother ers. Blowing the wad on the equivalent of Mo Williams right now is GONNA US RIGHT THE UP.
Settle down.
Telling me to settle down when you’re having one of your episodic meltdowns again in your reply
Can’t name a single ing player you’d trade for exactly like I said in my post
No, I wouldn’t trade Sochan as I’m one of his biggest fans on this site, you dumbass
Someone posted a graphic the records of the last 5-6 years for OKC, ORL, and us. Both OKC and ORL had double 20ish win seasons, followed by a 40ish play in season, followed by the playoffs. OKC is a year ahead of ORL, and we are a year behind them. Even though ORL is a year ahead of us, we are probably in a better long term situation since they lack the pick cache that we and OKC have each amassed.
Stop being so ing impatient. You’re like that bratty little girl in the original Willy Wonka. I want it NOOOOOOOOW, daddy.
We’re on the right track, using the same blueprint as two other teams that are now quite successful.
Not even possible with Wemby playing at AS level. It was even difficult last year, requiring torturous lineups to dump games. I always knew when Pop was dumping one, because even after Tre took over the PG spot, Pop would have Malaki bring the ball up the court in the fourth quarter. Nearly a guaranteed TO. In late season games like NYK and DEN, that wouldn’t happen.
Anyone who still has these tank takes is either not actually watching games or doesn't know anything about basketball.
Last season Pop sat Devin, Jeremy and Keldon, supposedly our best players after Wemby and he still single-handedly won games.
There's just no tanking with Wemby on the roster. Even attempting to do so would do him major disservice.
He's on a GOAT trajectory and every employee of this franchise needs to get out of their comfort zone to accomodate him.
No more family atmosphere and charity cases on the roster. It's time for cutthroat GM moves that improve the roster.
One can argue that as good as that family atmosphere was during Timmy's years, it also cost us in some scenarios.
The coaching decisions feel more pop-like lately. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was giving ty lineup recommendations.
That's why all this cliff jumping about his 'poor' start is beyond dumb. He had no training camp, came back from his foot injury slowly getting his form back (was looking good), injured something else, has comeback again and has struggled somewhat back in the starting lineup.
He needs to build chemistry with the new guys (Paul and Barnes) in the starting lineup or bring him off the bench and drop Keldon completely out of the rotation.
And I actually misspoke when criticizing Keldon, cause his rebounding is just as good as any other point. It just 'feels like' he doesn't get to those loose balls like seasons before.
Locked on Spurs is absolute dog as a podcast. It's the equivalent of having the impatient crybabies of ST in podcast form.
It's so insufferable that I couldn't get through December or January of last season before I unfollowed them
Last edited by J_Paco; 12-27-2024 at 12:41 AM.
Whoever says that is a buffoon, TBH. Having a 'family atmosphere' and 'culture' is what separates small, less appealing markets to the bigger, better drawing markets.
Plus, as 'kid glove' and 'nice' as people make the previous era to be they still made aggressive moves when needed and dropped both of Tim's best friends (Antonio Daniels & Malik Rose) when necessary.
They need to be shrewd (like signing Bassey & Champ off the waiver wire), calculated and patient with their moves.
We wish we go to the finals
The landscape has changed a lot with social media and other digital platforms (podcasts/hot takes industry). These guys can be anywhere and build a brand, while still living most of the year on the coast (to chase women etc) — remember most of the guys’ seasons end in April.
on a broader level we’re seen the impact on this on the NBA as a whole. They’re concerned about transitional media ratings, fan attendance, etc., but meanwhile the league just signed a mega deal betting on new social media/podcast/digital consumption patterns.
It ain’t 2008 anymore…
And wish Wemby can build a legacy off of (a) playing in the tiest conference of all time for a 10 year stretch, and (b) two asterisk season championships?
Not sure Vic is built that way tbh.
Let's look at it from another angle since you're saying we're impatient.
(I got no clue about those podcasts guys, never listened to them.)
Wemby is ready to win not games, but playoff series right now. He steps up every time when he's needed the most and makes it work in most games.
There's no need to be patient with him because he's ready and getting playoff experience would be invaluable.
Then we look at the rest of the roster. Castle is a rookie and will developing while we compete. Must play 25mpg right away, but won't be a key piece for a couple more years. We want to make the playoffs before that.
Jeremy will always be the defense oriented glue guy. Not having legit scorers just hurt him because he has to do things he's not good at, such as often being the second option on offense.
Who else needs patience?
It's Devin's 5th year, he already got paid. How much more patience does he need?
Keldon can't be on the roster on next season's opening night. He's horrible.
Everyone else is irrelevant in the bigger picture.
The thing is, about Devin and Keldon, is that folks are waiting on some miraculous leap from them when the reality is that this is most likely just who they are. Take a look at this plot of their multi-year LEBRON ratings relative to the rest of the league (top is )-LEBRON, middle is D-LEBRON, bottom is overall, the y-axis les get cut off unfortunately). Both of them have been the same dude for years now. This is just who they are. (Also, who was ready for the hard-to-swallow pills that Keldon is a better defender than Devin this year?)
By comparison, here is Jeremy's chart (I threw Wemby on there as well just to once again hammer home how absurd this guy is). That's what a leap looks like.
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