15-15 with a fairly easy schedule. Probably won't get more than 35 wins without a trade or two.
Mitch taking over was obviously the biggest moment of the season and he's done fairly well in these unexpected cir stances, can't expect a rookie coach to be perfect.
As for the players, a lot of things are more clear.
Wemby - We all knew he'd be great, but I don't think many of us expected him to be playing like a legit top5 player in the league, top10 at worst. Not only that, but he always rises to the occasion in big moments. We need to get him help asap because he's ready to compete.
Sochan - I was a hater this summer, but he's looked like a different player this year. Still without a functional jumpshot, but he's playing with purpose, makes better decisions and is often our second best player on offense which says a lot about everyone else.
Devin - I expected him to have a way better time this season because he was obviously not comfortable with the creator role he had to do in previous seasons, but he's been garbage. Defense keeps getting worse, inconsistent offensively and plays like a true Kobe stan. We need to get rid of him.
Keldon - Tank commander. Awful in every aspect of the game.
Collins - We're lucky he canceled himself, disaster of a player and a waste of cap space.
Tre - Still the same, useful backup point guard. It's just that he can't play most of the time and then he becomes useless. We need to figure out what's the plan. Either offer him a cheap deal as a long-term backup or trade him, no point in even having him in the rotation if he won't get another deal.
Champagnie - Developed into a role player every team needs. Won't ever be anything more than that, but he's arguably more useful on offense than any other SG/SF/PF we have because he's got shooter's movements and is always in the right place. Unlike our other shooters, not a turnstile on defense. He's got to play at least 25mpg, that's how bad the rest of the roster is.
Branham - Is there anything to say?
Wesley - Actually showed some flashes, but there's no future in the league for a point guard with no offense whatsoever. I actually wouldn't mind keeping him on a minimum deal as a third stringer for emergencies.
Mamukelashvili - Fan favorite, obviously a turnstile on defense, but at least he has some IQ and makes the right plays, it's just that he's painfully unathletic. At this point I'd play him over Keldon. Rather have a bad player with high IQ than a negative IQ idiot.
Bassey - The other fan favorite, good as an energy guy in short spurts, but Mitch obviously doesn't trust him and would rather play Jeremy as a backup big.
Sidy - Waste of cap space, another player with no offense whatsoever.
Castle - The best pick we could've made, but we can't really have good lineups on the floor due to the general lack of spacing on the team and his lack of jumpshot. Then he starts forcing it inside and it looks ugly.
CP3 - Aside from Wemby, the biggest reason for this season's improvement, but he's clearly on his last legs. A perfect floor general, but he's not taking even 1 shot in the paint per game. When your point guard can't penetrate, the offense gets stagnant. Still, can't ask for more from a 39 year old.
Barnes - Disappearing acts are annoying. We don't need him to score 20, but he can't just not take a shot for entire quarters. Obviously not a concern because he's just a temporary solution.
Overall it's been a positive season so far, but some changes are needed. If we're not going to make trades to improve the roster, there's no point in playing some of these players so much. With this roster we likely won't even make the play-in, let alone win games in it.
Castle has to play at least 25 minutes every single game. More when he gets it going. Devin and Keldon had more than enough years to show what they're made of. If we're not making trades to improve, then we might aswell develop players with upside.
Mitch made a lot of good changes, Collins being removed from the rotation being the most important one. But now it's time to take the next step and deal with Devin who's been a huge negative over these past few games.
CP3/Castle/Champ/Jeremy/Wemby. Yeah, I'm the first one who'll say Castle/Jeremy can't play together, but we'd at least have great defense. Tell them they must take open shots, it. It's not like Barnes and Devin are contributing on high volume.
We're alright. If anything, we are ahead of schedule, all things considered.
Paul and Barnes aren't going to be around forever. Neither will some of the dead weight contracts (looking at you Collins, Johnson, Branham, and Wesley)
We aren't going to win the championship in the next year or two, but I think we are still positioned well to build going forward and it's fun to actually watch compe ive games again
Think they finish with 40 wins, which is better than I expected. Problem is there's only three or four players outside Wemby worth keeping going forward.
Preparing Wemby to have an outstanding season while he watches the playoffs from home.
Spurs are better than expected but that should be more incentive to start the path to winning sooner. I really hope the deadweight from our team will be gone beginning this offseason. Not just finding a second star but also improving the bench. The Spurs have a lot of work to do. But yes this is easily the best season they’ve had since 2019.
They're not as good as their record suggests. I mean they are but in the sense that CP3 has probably accounted for about 5 of those wins and he's not in the long term plans.
Wemby showing he's generational after the flukey, slow start is nice. So is Sochan showing improvement.
But Vassell not making a leap pretty much negates those gains.
I also have strong doubts that Castle ever becomes anything more than a good role player.
They still need a strong #2 next to Wemby and I think it's probably gonna have to come via trade in the next year or so.
Easy schedule so far and i agree that CP3 has helped give structure to our mostly poor talent. I look forward to the Spurs making big moves next offseason.
Very pleased with this season so far. 15-15 is well above expectation. That's the good news.
The bad news is that it puts us in the worst possible place, the 11th seed in the west. There is no reason to continue down a path that takes us to the 11 seed, and it's basketball malpractice to allow that to happen. The front office should wrap up Christmas dinner with their families and then gather around in a meeting room and figure out a lane. You either start making moves for a playoff push, or you start making moves to build for the future (either via tank, or acquiring young promising talent, more draft picks, etc).
Maintaining the status quo would be a grave mistake, unfortunately it's one I fully expect us to take. Hopefully I'm wrong.
My thoughts are I hope PATFO aren't as emotionally attached to Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson as SpursTalk/Spurs Twitter.
but they've been here a really long time
Pleased with the season and think we are a play-in team as currently constructed. I also think with a pretty decent trade that we could be a playoff team that could compete with anyone in the west.
Need a lot of changes to the roster. Horrific perimeter defense game after game. Need way better bigs outside of wemby, need more 3 point shooters, and for the love of god get wemby a supporting cast.
We need to make some moves in the summer
Which is why I avoid Reddit. Those losers will defend Dev and Keldon to death with reasons like you just listed. They really want Wemby to play with these scrubs for the long term.My thoughts are I hope PATFO aren't as emotionally attached to Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson as SpursTalk/Spurs Twitter.
If Wemby is healthy, we can't tank and it would be a huge disservice to him.
We can't really get picks with anyone on the roster other than Devin if we assume Castle and Jeremy aren't up for trade.
And we'd be better off using Devin in a trade for a second star.
I see no solution other than making a couple of trades to actually make the roster compe ive. We don't have to blow the entire load right away, but we'd be way better with a legit 3-D wing and a backup big.
Second star trade can wait until the summer.
Not looking good.It will still be the same exact same roster after next year when paul and barnes are gone.I called it that we should not exend
branham and wesley and we do the opposite.Now look at them.Keldon is terrible and looks like vassell going that route as well.Still not sold
on sochan fit with wemby and hope we dont make the mistake of offering a big contract like we vassell,collins,keldon and so on.
This whole roster needs to be upgraded like alot of us called for this past summer.
Basically the same thing I said a couple of days ago you didn't agree with.
Good call OP. Most important line I believe-
Wemby - We all knew he'd be great, but I don't think many of us expected him to be playing like a legit top5 player in the league, top10 at worst. Not only that, but he always rises to the occasion in big moments. We need to get him help asap because he's ready to compete.
Yes we can't squander Wemby's talent. Wonder if there is anything going on in the front office.
Spurs ac ulated a ton of assets so that they can improve the roster even with wemby keeping the team out of the lottery. Any talk of tanking is nonsense. Push for a playin spot, unload a bad contract or two if possible, then push in those draft assets for Fox and Markkanen (or another big wing) in the offseason.
Spurs are ahead of schedule, they will be good going forward
It's not too late to #GagForFlagg tbh.
At the top end of my projections, which was around .500.
There's been a lot of growth but clear patches that need to be filled. The young players are learning how to compete throughout various parts of a game. That's huge. At the present moment, trying to win games on the road, which is a difficult thing to do for youth.
Paul and Barnes won't be here forever, so there will be a dip, but adding vets clearly was the best call. The next steps are hard, but doable. This is where we need to be right now, the improvement is significant. I thought the range was 31-41 games and we'll get closer to the top range.
This. Well, part of it. Tanking would be stupid. Right now is Chris Paul academy time. If they need to jump some spots to grab who they need in this draft, they have the assets.
Paying through the nose for Markannen or Fox's next contract isn't something they'll do.
the reddit homers are vomit inducingWhich is why I avoid Reddit. Those losers will defend Dev and Keldon to death with reasons like you just listed. They really want Wemby to play with these scrubs for the long term.
We need to have a clear #2 option by the start of next season. Weather that is Fox, Markkanen or whoever we clearly need that player ASAP. Vassell looks like hot garbage. I hope that changes within this season, but I have my doubts.
All in all this is a good season so far considering that our team has been ass for about 5 years now.
Spend this offseason Trading for De'Aaron Fox, and signing Brandon Ingram, locking up your cap space for years to come. Who says no?
Yeah, let's put Fox and Ingram into the same category just to try and prove your dumb point.
Wemby is amazing. Sochan is progressing nicely. Castle looks like a keeper and future long term combo guard for us. CP3 influence has been nice. Champ is exceeding his value.
Everyone else either stinks or has been underwhelming/disappointing.
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