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    i just realized Mark Madsen was drafted in the same draft as Fizer, who thought mad dog would be the one still in the league

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    Actually Marcus finished the season in the league. Try to keep up.

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    One of Oberto's best attributes last year was his rebounding. His per 48 numbers were second only to Duncan. That's not even counting taps to others on the team where he was probably the best of the Spurs at.
    The per 48 stat is probably the worst used stat of all. His rebounding was not impressive. And Scola isn't supposed to be as good as him, which leads me to beileve it would only hurt the Spurs rebounding.

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    "Not the NBA" is not the NBA.

    You say the sky is the limit with Scola. What is your prediction for his production as a Spur next season?
    Not much probably due to him being a rook, but manu got 20 MPG his first season so i can see Scola getting close to that. I'd say 16 mpg 8 ppg 4 rbg

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    I think Scola is better than Oberto or Javtokas. But I just don't know if he will fit on the Spurs or if he's worth how much they'll need to pay him because of the buyout. If we were talking about him making 1 or 2M a year, it's a no brainer to bring him over. But will that be enough? I doubt it. No one even knows if the buyout has been reduced or to how much. Last season we kept hearing the buyout had been reduced, and in the end it was 14.5M Now lately I've heard everything from 3.5M to 5M. Who knows.

    It all depends on what else the Spurs can do. If they can find a taller player who is more of an athlete and a rebounder, then they'll probably deal Scola's rights. If he's the best option and cheap, then they'll probably sign him.

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    Not much probably due to him being a rook, but manu got 20 MPG his first season so i can see Scola getting close to that. I'd say 16 mpg 8 ppg 4 rbg
    Seeing as Fizer got 7 points and 2.3 boards in 13 minutes for the Hornets in 3 games, I am now forced to agree that Scola is worth 30 times as much as Fizer.

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    I think Scola is better than both of them 2, but there wasn't person who watched both he and Oberto play before last year that thought Scola was even close to the rebounder Oberto was. And Oberto turned out to be a very very lukewarm NBA player.

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    Actually Marcus finished the season in the league. Try to keep up.
    i don't count 10 day contracts as "being in the league" but ok. 3 games he played in 2 of which he didn't play until NO was 30+ points down in garbage time. The one game he did get to play in the first half against 'non-scrub' players he stunk it up and didn't get put back into the game after that.

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    Seeing as Fizer got 7 points and 2.3 boards in 13 minutes for the Hornets in 3 games, I am now forced to agree that Scola is worth 30 times as much as Fizer.
    Where does the 30x come from? Is it a salary differential?

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    Seeing as Fizer got 7 points and 2.3 boards in 13 minutes for the Hornets in 3 games, I am now forced to agree that Scola is worth 30 times as much as Fizer.
    he padded his stats in garbage time against other scrubs

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    Where does the 30x come from? Is it a salary differential?
    right now Fizer would play for 8 dollars an hour

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    how many players from overseas the first year make a big impact usually it is the second year

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    but there wasn't person who watched both he and Oberto play before last year that thought Scola was even close to the rebounder Oberto was.
    I don't remember that. I always thought Oberto and Scola both averaged about 6-7 rpg.

    I remember Oberto touted as a better passer and defender. Scola, obviously, much better offensively. And neither of them being awesome rebounders (but not that horrible either).

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    Chump is such an Austin Toros homer :P

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    Where does the 30x come from? Is it a salary differential?
    Pretty much. If Scola takes up most of the MLE it will be a waste, since the Spurs have much more pressing needs. No one has even attempted to explain how he would work in an offense with Duncan. All I've gotten is "he's really good in Europe." Well, so was Antione Rigadeau and Arvydas Macijauskas.

    Tell me what Scola is going to do for the Spurs, because 8 and 4 isn't going to be worth our MLE.

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    I don't remember that. I always thought Oberto and Scola both averaged about 6-7 rpg.
    oberto from 03-04: 5.7 rpg LINK

    scola from 05-06: 6.5 rpg LINK

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    oberto from 03-04: 5.7 rpg LINK

    scola from 05-06: 6.5 rpg LINK
    Yeah that's about what I thought.

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    Chump is such an Austin Toros homer :P
    Simply using Fizer for comparison. I need to be convinced we should blow our MLE on a similar player. I see Scola's upside as Corliss Williamson-like at best, and he's been overpaid as well.

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    I think Scola is better than both of them 2, but there wasn't person who watched both he and Oberto play before last year that thought Scola was even close to the rebounder Oberto was. And Oberto turned out to be a very very lukewarm NBA player.
    I'm not so sure that no one thought Scola was even close to the rebounder Oberto was...maybe people thought Oberto was a better rebounder but I think you are exaggerating.

    Anway, everyone wanted Scola last summer. Oberto was signed only because it wasn't possible to sign Scola that summer. It seems like the Spurs were like what the , it, we might as well give this Oberto guy a shot.

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    Simply using Fizer for comparison. I need to be convinced we should blow our MLE on a similar player. I see Scola's upside as Corliss Williamson-like at best, and he's been overpaid as well.
    Fizer is more like Williamson while Scola is more like Malik or Kenny Thomas

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    In what way?

    There is no way Scola is the athlete or rebounder or defender Rose or Thomas is. If you're saying Scola could average a double double for a season like Thomas has you have a screw loose.

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    In an effectiveness analysis in the 2004 Olympics link Scola was tops on Argentina followed closely by Manu with a big drop off to guys like Nocioni and Oberto. Others top for their team were Duncan, Gasol, Yao, Bogut. Scola averaged 5.0 rebounds per game throughout the Olympics. Don't know how that compared to other players.

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    So what does that mean for Scola in the NBA?

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    Scola was the one that was pouting when Oberto, not him made it to the spurs. If he wants to play, he has to accept a reasonable contract given by the spurs.

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    So what does that mean for Scola in the NBA?
    Good question. Only one way to ever find out. Not saying Scola will eb but did you think Nocioni would be as effective as he is?

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