Is anything like that even legal? I thought significant performance-related bonuses were outlawed by the CBA. I remember the Spurs tried to offer DA a contract with a bunch of incentives that would have never been approved by the NBA.I was thinking about that but I'm not sure what it could be. Perhaps something like if he doesn't start a certain percentage of games, it kicks in 4th and 5th years of the contract.
Yeah, the NFL setup is to where if a team signs a RFA they must send over compensation, whereas the NBA agreement simply allows the origional team to match the offer to retain the services. I would argue that draft picks are far more important in the NFL which is why the agreements are strucutred that way but thats a totally different thread.
What do you want to know?
He's 6'10" with a 7'1.5" wingspan, 21 years old and looks vaguely angry..
Is he a quick springy jumper or a strong jumper? Rebounding skills? Not afraid to bang? Is he a Black Hole? How are his hands? Court Sense, relative to Nazr?
One main reason Spurs fans should really want Butler.
shiiiiit, man that's all you needed to say
My scouting report on Butler:
Offense: Very good hands and good touch around the basket. Doesn't have a perimeter game but isn't afraid to mix it up inside. Finishes with power around the basket. His back to the basket moves are basic yet effective.
Defense: Good shotblocker. Good rebounder. Really bodies up to his man defensively and forces tough shots. Can get in foul trouble much like most young centers. Has to work on his rotations but he's decent as is.
Basically he's a guy who can come in and bang. On top of that, his ability to score inside will be an improvement over Rasho and Nazr. This year, he'd probably be an 8 points and 6 rebounds per game type of player.
As time goes on, he's a guy who develop into a double-double machine. 15 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks a game type potential.
His downsides are he's raw, not in the greatest of shape and has a history of some off the court troubles. IIRC, he went to high school for five years and had problems getting eligible for college. But if he can put his problems behind him, hit the gym and come in with the right at ude, he's going to be a huge piece for the Spurs going forward.
Now it's up to Isiah not matching.
Nice. Sounds almost too good to be true. With the Knicks Roster, there really is no reason he should match, unless we offered this kid a dirt cheap contract....Well, guess I'll keep the fingers crossed until we hear how this ends.
Isaiah has done a great job ing things up so far, hopefully he continues in his stupid ways.
Start? , they could couch something in there about xtra years being added for not being on the active list for X number of games. I think their owner is going to choke on this anyway (paying a 4th center), but if there is a penalty for stashing him on IL, that could be the match breaker.I was thinking about that but I'm not sure what it could be. Perhaps something like if he doesn't start a certain percentage of games, it kicks in 4th and 5th years of the contract.
Half the MLE is dirt-cheap for a young big.
Shoulda offered his ass the entire MLE god damit
For what it's worth, Knick fans are all saying that it's a no-brainer that Isiah will match the offer.
typical
Exactly.
To get a young big with promise for anything less than the MLE is a steal.
Where?For what it's worth, Knick fans are all saying that it's a no-brainer that Isiah will match the offer.
What Knicks fans are thinking about the Butler situation...
Found a thread at a Knicks Forum:
http://www.nykfanpage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17084
I'm getting bad flashbacks to the 2000 offseason when the Spurs were hours away from locking up a little known, project bigman. At the last minute, the Blazers upped their offer and kept their free agent.
Spurs fans were wondering why the Spurs offered the kid so much money. Now any Spurs fan would give up their first born to get Jermaine O'Neal on this team.
Thanks.
Well, then we're just doing the Knicks' bidding for them. Like Miami did for the Clips with Brand.For what it's worth, Knick fans are all saying that it's a no-brainer that Isiah will match the offer.
Wow, reading for a bit on that thread makes my CBA understanding head hurt.
damn we suck
It seems far too likely the Knicks match. You just don't screw around with moneybags. Again, our only hope is Butler asks Isiah to have a man-to-man discussion with him on an abandoned subway platform and they walk away with "a better understanding."
We can hope the Knicks make their decision sooner rather than later.
Wich means he will.I can't see Zeke passing on a match at 3 million or so.
hopefully.....
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