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    Some fragments of the Lebanese army have joined Hezbollah in the fight.

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    Saying they've learned nothing from the past is as wreckless a statement as Kofi's assertion that the bombing was deliberate.
    They've bombed UN positions before.
    And do you seriously believe that in war accidents don't happen in spite of being careful?
    As I said, you'd think they would be more careful since they have done it before. Seriously.

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    Ok, now Fox News is saying that the Israelis have bombed Lebanese army bases and relay stations for state tv. I thought their beef was just with Hezbollah, right?
    And I thought that the Lebanese said that their military would join Hezbullah in their fight against Israel, right?

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    Some fragments of the Lebanese army have joined Hezbollah in the fight.
    Well I guess no one saw that coming.

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    Well, not long ago, don't pin me down, UN troops videotaped the kidnap of an Israeli soldier. The UN was not forthcoming with this info, but Israel found out about it's existence.

    There is no love lost between the UN and Israel.

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    They've bombed UN positions before.As I said, you'd think they would be more careful since they have done it before. Seriously.
    On purpose?
    They've been defending themselves against these mindless idiots forever. Accidents are going to happen and these accidents pale in comparison to the stated deliberate targeting of innocents by their enemies that have instigated the hostilities.

    It has to be brought to a head.

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    1. hezbollah
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    a group of angry men who sneaked in 12,000 missiles into lebanon under their funny hats and are now lobbing them into northern israel.

    thanks to hezbollah, world war 3 is underway.

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    On purpose?
    Well they hit a UN position with over 30 s s and killed over 100 Lebanese who had heeded Israeli warnings to leave their homes and took shelter there. You tell me.

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    Well they hit a UN position with over 30 s s and killed over 100 Lebanese who had heeded Israeli warnings to leave their homes and took shelter there. You tell me.
    No, you offer proof that it was intentional.

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    I'm not defending Hezbollah here. I'm just saying that these mistakes could hurt Israel more than invading Lebanon might help.

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    This thread needs to get back on track.

    Retired Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie on the CBC.


    http://www.cbc.ca/metromorning/media...26LMCJUL26.ram

    At the 3 minute mark he discusses the strategy of the islamakaziz's. Key point. Listen about the targeting at the UN building.

    http://www.cjnews.com/pastIssues/02/aug15-02/main.asp


    Second picture RH side of page. That look "neutral" to you?

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBu...20060726c.html

    Only one person can command to have a UN post abandoned. Kofi Annan.

    Kofi killed the soldiers.

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    No, you offer proof that it was intentional.
    If it was an accident, why did they learn nothing from it?

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    I'm not defending Hezbollah here. I'm just saying that these mistakes could hurt Israel more than invading Lebanon might help.
    Short of annihilation I'm not sure how much more hurt can be done to Israel.

    This invasion into a neighboring Country is a sign that they've been pushed far beyond their normal policy of measured responses that amount to little more than for tat. They've been pushed too far for too long.

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    Second picture RH side of page. That look "neutral" to you?
    Was that the site in question? Yoni said it wasn't.

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    Short of annihilation I'm not sure how much more hurt can be done to Israel.

    This invasion into a neighboring Country is a sign that they've been pushed far beyond their normal policy of measured responses that amount to little more than for tat. They've been pushed too far for too long.
    They've only been out of Lebanon a few years. How long will they stay this time?

    I'm prefectly willing to accept this as another up by the Israelis.

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    I don't know. This is the funny part. Does it matter???? Jeez.

    Please don't tell me that is all you got from the above info.

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    If it was an accident, why did they learn nothing from it?
    Did you miss the part about accidents happening no matter how careful you are?

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    This is the funny part.
    I don't find anything funny about this.
    Please don't tell me that is all you got from the above info.
    Why should I listen to all that. I know exactly how human shields work. If the Israelis know the UN hasn't pulled out, shouldn't they take that into account -- especially if they accidentally bombed another UN position a decade ago killing over 100 people?

    Especially if they got 10 phone calls from the UN observers they killed?

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    They've only been out of Lebanon a few years. How long will they stay this time?

    I'm prefectly willing to accept this as another up by the Israelis.
    How long? Who knows? Probably not a question that needs to be asked just yet.

    FU meaning the invasion to root out hezbullah or the bombing of the UN Bldg?

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    FU meaning the invasion to root out hezbullah or the bombing of the UN Bldg?
    The latter. The former is probably not a question that needs to be asked just yet.

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    Why should I listen to all that.
    Problem #1.

    I know exactly how human shields work. If the Israelis know the UN hasn't pulled out, shouldn't they take that into account
    It's an enemy position. So reward the s by not bombing them? Guess that works doesn't it.

    -- especially if they accidentally bombed another UN position a decade ago killing over 100 people?
    They didn't target the building. They targeted the little ers using the position as cover. Prime example of you NOT listening to the General who plainly stated the building was NOT being targeted.

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    The latter. The former is probably not a question that needs to be asked just yet.
    It need to be asked for clarification

    Accidents and f-up's are the same thing. Glad we see eye to eye.

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    It's an enemy position. So reward the s by not bombing them? Guess that works doesn't it.
    Don't bomb the wrong building. That does work.
    They didn't target the building. They targeted the little ers using the position as cover. Prime example of you NOT listening to the General who plainly stated the building was NOT being targeted.
    They hit the building. If it was a laser guided bomb, they HAD to have targeted the building. That's how those work. It's a up.

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    And I already knew about the emails the Canadian sent out. I didn't need the audio link.

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    Hezbollah intentionally kills civilians. That's terrorism by any reasonable definition.

    Israel intentionally kills civilians. That's terrorism, too. I don't hear Israel apologizing for any mistakes.

    I have no problem with Israel (or any nation) defending itself, but there is a big problem with the way Israel is defending itself.

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