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I repeat....
There is no draft. Fact.
Interpret all you want...
But there is no draft. Fact.
It's also a fact that some troops have already been to Iraq for two and three tours and the US reserve system, the backbone to the modern army, is dysfunctional if not altogether broken. Whott may not think keeping troops longer than their required active duty tour isn't a draft, but I bet the family's who have to wait another 90 days, or another year, or till 2034 for their loved ones to finally come home don't agree.There is no draft. Fact
I repeat....
There is no draft. Fact.
Interpret all you want...
But there is no draft. Fact.
Would you like to qualify that with a 'yet'?
Most people don't want to debate you Manny because you are uncouth,
avitar-giving the fingers, telling people to STFU, (Even Mouse)!
Hezbollah getting hurt well here goes.
Israeli commandos flew in by helicopter before dawn into the northern town of Baalbek, on the border with Syria, capturing five Hezbollah guerrillas and killing at least 10, said Israel's army chief, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz.
Witnesses said Israeli forces partially destroyed the Dar al-Hikma hospital in Baalbek, where chief Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Rahal said fierce fighting raged for more than one hour.
Israel has not yet released the iden y of those captured. When asked by The Associated Press whether any were "big fish," Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said: "They are tasty fishes."
Now Manny since you have a llimited knowledge of History, oops excuse me SIR, make that a slanted view of history, you will not know that the town of Baalbek has been OFF LIMITS to attacks from anyone since WWI. DO YOU KNOW WHY.
Last edited by BIG IRISH; 08-03-2006 at 02:34 AM.
There's still time for you to get out before they bring it back though...
Renounce that citizenship, quick!
I won't be drafted and I have no kids of draft age.
MannyIsGod
This was from another one of your whatevers that tend to prove you haveSure, let me know when the next time a major terrorist organization was beaten into submission. Or the last time for that matter
already made up your mind about everything in Life and you no longer have
the ability to funking think for yourself.
Answer NAZIS
The world was united against the nazis. try again.
The Nazrs were not state-less terrorists.
They were an essential, uniformed arm of a country fighting a conventional war vs. other countries.
the nazrs
This israeli dude I know was recalled to Israel army. And he was the 2nd of 3 groups of reserves. Israel preparing for the big one? yeah
I think Israelis are going to scorch the earth from the Israeli border to the Litani, if not all the way to S. Lebanon, then invite a peace-keeping force to occupy that land.
The world?
What is the value of a $?
It is based on the YEN.
a lot of American's even one of it's HEROS were nazi lovers and
some didn't even change after Pearl Harbor.
case in point
In 1935, the Charles Lindberghs moved to England, to escape the taunts and hassling of the press, people, and paparazzi due to the execution of Hauptmann and their son’s kidnapping and murder. It was at this time when Nazi /Germany was beginning it’s quest of domination over it’s neighboring countries.
While in Europe, Lindbergh toured Nazi Lufwaffe plants and training facilities, saying that they were superior to all others. He also accepted a German Medal of Honor. When the US began to think of entering the war, Lindbergh publicly opposed it. He said there was no need for America to get involved.
When Pearl Harbor was bombed, he swiftly asked to rejoin the Air Reserve. But due to his reputation of “Nazi loving,” President Roosevelt wouldn’t allow it. Instead, Lindbergh served as a civilian employee in the pacific war zone.
Clambake Get off the beach or at leaast read a good book while your getting
your brain fried by the hot Texas Sun
Last edited by BIG IRISH; 08-04-2006 at 12:29 AM.
Psssssssssss
When the Nazis started out they weren't more than a bunch of thugs, with
a leader who had bigger plans. They became a political Party and their
leader became chancller of Germany.-any similarity to Hezbollah?
Don't say any thing about my spelling and I won't comment on yours,
after all I'm just a Irish Troll
Since this thread is dead dying comments Manny, anyone
I'm so sorry but the hate for the Jews will always be with us and Hezbollah
will always be around, just by another name.
posted 03-28-2001 12:35 AM by ME Staff Use Only:
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NAZI CHRISTMAS
by David Shapiro
True story.
1983.
I'm nineteen.
Opposites attract.
Me: Brown eyes; brown hair.
Her: Blue eyes; blue hair.
Me: Native New Yorker.
Her: Raised on a farm.
Met in Magic-Realist Lit class.
State University.
Dating only weeks.
She said "Come to family Christmas."
Instinct said no.
We left in the morning.
I am Jewish by birth.
Raised secular.
Not big on holidays.
Never been to family Christmas.
Beautiful drive.
I am the passenger.
Imagining bucolic.
Imagining Wonderful Life.
WASP fantasy.
Christmas brainwash.
Warm by the fireplace.
Golden Retriever.
Tree.
Stockings.
Bring presents.
Pie for the hostess.
Bottle for the host.
Upstate corner of New York.
Family farm.
Uncle's house.
Low-rent.
Not wonderful life.
Redneck pickup truck.
Cinderblocks.
Homemade furniture.
No books.
Fake wood paneling.
Cross on the wall.
Don't be provincial, I think.
Give it a chance.
My girlfriend: First in family to get past high school.
Her mother: Sweet homemaker.
Her father: Minister.
Her aunt: American Legion cook.
Her sister: Three kids; no dad.
Her brothers and father and uncle: Out hunting.
I stand in kitchen with the women.
Awkward, but polite.
Food: Great equalizer.
Men return from hunt.
Uncle: Pumps gas.
Guns; camouflage; orange clothes.
Testosterone.
Looks like an old rocker.
Long gray hair.
Earrings.
Cracks jokes.
Nice smile.
Give gifts.
Polite conversation.
Thin veil.
Christmas dinner.
Sit between uncle and father.
Hold hands.
Grace.
Smell gas on uncles hand.
Awkward conversation.
Start to drink.
Venison; first time; delicious.
Tomorrow, I'm going hunting.
Never shot gun. "Easy," uncle says, "pull the trigger."
Me: Quaker school but obsessed with war.
G.I. Joe.
Prepared to go to 'Nam.
Uncle: "What's Quaker School?"
Try not to be political.
Uncle collects war memorabilia.
What kind?
"WW II. Mostly German."
Big collection downstairs.
"I'll show you after the meal."
Beautiful feast.
Understand a little.
Drink a lot.
Family; food; love.
Go to bathroom.
Investigate downstairs.
Insane.
Helmets; guns; grenades; daggers.
Medals; models; boots; gas masks.
Uniforms; dioramas; posters; flags.
Flags! Swastikas! Busts!
Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.
Back upstairs.
Upset.
Hold back anger.
"Impressive collection."
"Thanks."
"Germans misunderstood."
Another drink.
"Hitler not so bad."
"Oh, really."
"After lost war, he helped Germans."
Hitler?
I am drunk.
Losing it.
"Hitler was not so bad."
"He was evil."
"Propaganda. We know better now."
"And the Holocaust?"
"Exaggerated."
"Your collection is incomplete.
Missing skin lamps. Missing Jew soap."
Girlfriend: "I'm sorry, excuse him."
Don't excuse me.
I am drunk.
Girlfriend: "What's wrong with you?"
"He's a ****ing liar!"
Father (minister): "Your language offensive!"
"Your brother offensive!"
Uncle: "Jew Bas ! Won't be staying in my house!"
Start to fight.
Punches.
I'm nineteen.
He's maybe fifty.
A lot of punches.
Minister separates.
Daughter ashamed.
Minister: "Everyone calm down."
Daughter cries.
Feel bad.
But not that bad.
Take back present; drink it.
I'm trapped.
New Yorker; don't drive.
Call taxi. Say I'm sorry to girlfriend.
Reach out.
She stays seated with family.
Wait for taxi outside.
See breath.
Taxi.
Open door.
"Merry Christmas."
Stay in hotel.
Drink rest of present.
Trailways station hangover.
Bus ride.
Alone.
Then home
Last edited by BIG IRISH; 08-04-2006 at 06:06 AM. Reason: deleted an afterthought
PARTY OF GOD AND REAGAN: A Hezbollah History Lesson you may not know...
Arms for Cash flashback
OK, class, answer this question — and let’s not see the same hands:
Greg PalastPresident George W. Bush says, “Syria has been a primary sponsor of Hezbollah and it has helped provide Hezbollah with shipments of Iranian made weapons… threaten the entire Middle East.”
This month marks the twenty-first anniversary of a shipment of 508 anti-tank missiles to Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini in support of Hezbollah. Who approved that shipment?
Need a hint? The shipments were approved by a group which calls itself, “The Party of God.”
That’s right, Republican President Ronald Reagan sent the Ayatollah the weapons (and a birthdayreagan antlers cake — no kidding) in return for loot to fund the illegal war against the elected government of Nicaragua. As part of the deal, Iran’s operatives in Hezbollah would release the two dozen hostages they’d taken, including a Presbyterian minister, a Catholic priest, a librarian and US reporter Terry Anderson. After the arms shipment, Hezbollah released three of the hostages and over time, executed several others. With Iran’s funding, the US supplied its own terrorist group, the “contras,” with weapons used in the killing of 30,000 Nicaraguans.
Manny: In Argentina, Montoneros, FARC and ERP were beaten into submission.
Good old Ronny Reagan's administration produced more convicted felons than Clinton's.PARTY OF GOD AND REAGAN: A Hezbollah History Lesson you may not know...
Arms for Cash flashback
OK, class, answer this question — and let’s not see the same hands:
Greg Palast
If Clinton's administration was corrupt, then Reagan's was more so.
Wow, i didn't know that selling nuclear secrets to china for campaign contributions was on par with selling arms for hostages.
Reagan was clearly the worst of both evils here.
selling nuclear secrets to china for campaign contributions
Where's your proof? Woo was convicted of spying and went to jail.
COME ON DAN, Your smarter than that:
Where's your proof? Woo was convicted of spying and went to jail.
Richard Poe
Tuesday, May 27, 2003
China will likely replace the USA as world leader, said Bill Clinton in a recent Washington Post interview. It is just a matter of time. Clinton should know. He has personally done more to build China’s military strength than any man on earth.
Most Americans have heard of the so-called "Chinagate" scandal. Few understand its deadly import, however. Web sites such as "Chinagate for Dummies" and its companion "More Chinagate for Dummies" offer some assistance.
Unfortunately, with a combined total of nearly 8,000 words, these two sites – like so many others of the genre – offer more detail than most of us "dummies" can absorb.
For that reason, in the 600 words left in this column, I will try to craft my own "Idiot’s Guide to Chinagate," dedicated to all those busy folks like you and me whose attention span tends to peter out after about 750 words.
Here goes.
When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented no threat to the United States. Chinese missiles "couldn’t hit the side of a barn," notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America and those that made it would likely miss their targets.
Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.
China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike by proxy – equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do its dirty work while the Chinese play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies.
In 1997, Clinton allowed China to take over the Panama Canal. The Chinese company Hutchison Whampoa leased the ports of Cristobal and Balboa, on the east and west openings of the canal, respectively, thus controlling access both ways.
A public outcry stopped Clinton in 1998 from leasing California's Long Beach Naval Yard to the Chinese firm COSCO. Even so, China can now strike U.S. targets easily from its bases in Panama, Vancouver and the Bahamas.
How did the Chinese catch up so fast? Easy. We sold them all the technology they needed – or handed it over for free. Neither neglect nor carelessness is to blame. Bill Clinton did it on purpose.
As a globalist, Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others.
To this end, Clinton appointed anti-nuclear activist Hazel O'Leary to head the Department of Energy. O'Leary set to work "leveling the playing field," as she put it, by giving away our nuclear secrets. She declassified 11 million pages of data on U.S. nuclear weapons and loosened up security at weapons labs.
Federal investigators later concluded that China made off with the "crown jewels" of our nuclear weapons research under Clinton’s open-door policy – probably including design specifications for suitcase nukes.
Meanwhile, Clinton and his corporate cronies raked in millions.
In his book "The China Threat," Washington Times correspondent Bill Gertz describes how the system worked.
Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton's campaign. In return, Clinton called off the dogs. Janet Reno and other counterintelligence officials stood down while Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space & Communications and other U.S. companies helped China modernize its nuclear strike force.
"We like your president. We want to see him re-elected," former Chinese intelligence chief Gen. Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung.
Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton's way.
Clinton's top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.
Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady, who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others.
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown served as Clinton's front man in many Chinagate deals. When investigators began probing Brown's Lippo Group and Chinagate connections, Brown died suddenly in a su ious April 1996 plane crash.
Needless to say, China does not share Clinton's enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity. The Chinese look out for No. 1.
"War [with the United States] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it," said Chinese Defense Minister Gen. Chi Haotian in 2000. "The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this war."
Bill Clinton has given them a dam good start.
Here's my strategy on the Cold War:
We win, they lose."
- Ronald Reagan
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
- Ronald Reagan
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
"Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."
- Ronald Reagan
"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."
- Ronald Reagan
"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination."
- Ronald Reagan
"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appe e at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
- Ronald Reagan
"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
- Ronald Reagan
"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program."
- Ronald Reagan
"I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about anything that happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's in the middle of a Cabinet meeting."
- Ronald Reagan
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."
- Ronald Reagan
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
- Ronald Reagan
"Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book."
- Ronald Reagan
"No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.
- Ronald Reagan
Please read the Idiots guide to Chinagate above.
Back to the original thread:
With Israel on offense, fringe benefits accrue
By Marvin Leibstone/ Syndicated Columnist
Wednesday, August 9, 2006
Israel’s attacks in southern Lebanon are rooted in realism: Weaken Hezbollah so that it could no longer send rockets or troops against Israeli targets. Hezbollah’s attacks are steeped in fantasy: Nibble away at Israel, and Israel will crumble.
The former objective is possible, the latter impossible.
Also, there are fringe benefits to the Israeli attacks: Beirut is learning it had better clean house or it will pay an awful price again for allowing Hezbollah to stage attacks from southern Lebanon, and global resentment toward Iran and Syria (Hezbollah’s paymasters) has increased.
But there are no benefits for Hezbollah from its attacks into Israel. When the fighting in Lebanon ends, Israel will still be Israel, a nation intact. Hezbollah will be a battered fight club, which is the fate of Hamas and al-Qaeda even if another 9/11 occurs. The Islamic militants don’t get it - an unrestrained Israel could decimate all of Lebanon, Iran, Syria and the Palestinian territories in days, just as another 9/11 could be the tipping point for U.S.-led strikes causing the Middle East to look like Dresden during World War II.
Israel’s recent U.S.-supported attacks in Lebanon demonstrate that escalation of force against terrorism is quite possible.
If Hezbollah and Muslim suicide-bombers were to destroy the great Western centers of finance, politics, religion and culture, the United States and Europe would recover and be able to send jihadists back to the Stone Age.
It is Lebanon that has suffered the most, for which it’s to blame. Beirut decided it was better to allow Hezbollah to be a militia conducting strikes against Israel than to defang Hezbollah and risk the wrath of Iran and Syria.
If Israel stays on track, Hezbollah will lose its rocket-delivery capability, though Israel will accrue casualties. A cease-fire could then occur as global and Lebanese forces settle in for the long term. What ought to happen right away, however, is prevention of Iran and Syria from arming Hezbollah, for which the better persuaders are the United States and Europe.
Second, if Hezbollah refuses to give up terrorism and its militia, it should be driven out of Lebanon. Otherwise Hezbollah will conduct more raids against Israel, ending another cease-fire.
A choice must be made: Either Hezbollah cleans up its act or it leaves Lebanon. If the latter, then mistakes that had allowed Arafat to conduct intifadas after leaving Lebanon must not be repeated.
Thus the U.N. Security Council has to agree with Israel that neutering Hezbollah is essential to prosecuting the global War on Terror.
Marvin Leibstone is a Washington-based anti-terrorism expert.
Marvin Leibstone of the Boston Herald has hit the proverbial nail on the head concerning the current conflict in the Middle East.
Where's your proof? Woo was convicted of spying and went to jail.
Update yourself DAN
After growing up in Taiwan, Wen Ho Lee moved to the United States in 1965 to continue studying engineering.
He became a U.S. citizen in 1974, and in 1978 he took a job as a scientist in weapons design at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. Shortly after a news story that implied he had given military secrets to China, he was arrested and accused of being a spy.
Wen Ho Lee spent nine months in prison while the U.S. Department of Justice tried to prove a case against him. Eventually a plea bargain was reached and Lee was charged with one count of mishandling sensitive materials and released from prison.
In May of 2006 he settled an invasion of privacy lawsuit against the U.S. government for $1.65 million. Lee accused the government of violating privacy laws by leaking personal information to the press.
The settlement included $750,000 from five news organizations (The New York Times, ABC, The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post and the Associated Press).
Extra credit: Lee's wife, Sylvia, was an "informational asset" to the F.B.I. from 1985 to 1991
Yeah, the days of mano a mano are long gone. Ultraconservatives have made it that way.
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