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  1. #76
    Give Peace a Chance....Imagine? ZStomp's Avatar
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    Crime is in every community. Yes, even the northside of town.

    That is correct.

    I knew someone would see the light.

    I like how people feel safe just cuz they live in a safe neighbor hood. I do agree that some neighborhoods are better than others... but nobody or no part of town is immune from crime.

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    To those who tried to send me PMs, I apologize that my box was full, I have cleared some out and please go ahead and send them to me. Sorry! But thanks for all the good stuff.

  3. #78
    Believe. CubanMustGo's Avatar
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    In Texas, defense of one's property is generally accepted as a valid reason for blasting the out of someone breaking into your house.

    Sorry you're having to deal with this crap, Mel.

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    Can't say I'd be so indecisive if I were in your shoes. But then again, I have a wife and kids. Even if that weren't the case, the thought of being raped and murdered (if I were female) would definitely be enough to make me do whatever it takes to make sure that didn't happen. I'd blast a hole through anyone who kicked my door in, but that's just me.
    See, here is the thing.. I HAVE been through it and still not sure I want a gun. My grandpa was SAPD for over 30 years and he said if you aren't sure you want a gun, then you have no business having one.

    The thing is, I just wonder if I would use it or be too scared to, what if I froze, what if I killed the mother er and later just couldn't deal with that. Killing someone is a big ing deal, I don't care if he banged your door down.

    Thing is, I have been so wishy washy today wtih my emotions, I wonder if things will change tomorrow.

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    Free Throw Coach Aggie Hoopsfan's Avatar
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    Also, he expressed concerns about his rights with an intruder should he kill him
    If someone is in your home, you've got the right to defend yourself with deadly force. Just know that if it comes to it, when the cops show up, tell them you felt your life was in danger, and that's it.

    Oh, and practice with the weapon. If someone does break in, you're going to have little time to react, so you better be well practiced.

  6. #81
    That's what she said. LuvBones's Avatar
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    Damn, I want a gun now. If that happened to me, I'd feel defenseless without one.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Mel, you live kinda close to us. We're just north of downtown in Monte Vista, so kinda on the other side of I10.

    Anyhow, I advocate some form of home defense. Preferably a gun, but I think even some sort of stun gun would be better. Yeah, its a big step having a gun around but if someone ever breaks into my house I want them to leave in a body bag. I'm Mr. Anti Death Penalty and give criminals a second chance, but I strongly believe that if someone makes the decision to step foot in a house they don't belong in they lose the right to safety because the home owners safety trumps that by far. You're not going to break into my house while I'm there and leave alive unless my aim really sucks.

    Otherwise keep a bottle of beer by your side at all times so that you can break it and use in hand to hand combat. It'll be like a bar fight right in your own home!

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    I'm Mr. Anti Death Penalty and give criminals a second chance, but I strongly believe that if someone makes the decision to step foot in a house they don't belong in they lose the right to safety because the home owners safety trumps that by far. You're not going to break into my house while I'm there and leave alive unless my aim really sucks.
    WTF? Weird POV.

  9. #84
    You give great headache. Condemned 2 HelLA's Avatar
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    If nothing else, at least keep a baseball bat within reach of your bed.
    It may not be the best weapon of choice, but at least it's a weapon.

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    I dunno guys. Guns kinda scare me. I am already scared enough, I don't see how bringing something into the house that scares me is going to help me feel less scared. I appreciate your POVs but I am just not sure about getting a gun. I don't know. I just don't know.

  11. #86
    I come in Marklar. Marklar MM's Avatar
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    Get a laser pointer...burn out his eyes.

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    Don't get a gun if you're not comfortable with it.


    And I personaly don't think right now is really the time for you to make that decision anyways. Don't get one simply as a reactionary measure.

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    You give great headache. Condemned 2 HelLA's Avatar
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    I'm Mr. Anti Death Penalty and give criminals a second chance, but I strongly believe that if someone makes the decision to step foot in a house they don't belong in they lose the right to safety because the home owners safety trumps that by far. You're not going to break into my house while I'm there and leave alive unless my aim really sucks.
    Not really.
    What Manny is saying here is that you're in his house without an invitation, than any and all rights you have as a human being have gone right down the crapper. It's not like he's Mr. N.R.A. Wack Job waving his gun around daring and waiting for an undesirable to come in. He's merely, again, stating the obvious: what's his is his, and if you want to challenge that, chances are you're going to be leaving the premises with a few more holes in your body than you arrived with. He's saying what anyone else would in that spot.

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    Siren with a Siren RashoFan's Avatar
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    Damn Girl, I am so sorry to hear what happened. That is definately some scary . I am glad that you are physically okay, Know that we are here if you need any of us for anything. I used to live by Woodlawn Lake, on Cincinatti. Wasn't a bad area when I was there. I will say a prayer for you, I hope you can get some rest.

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    Sorry Mel. That's horrible.

    If you are very hesitant/scared about getting a gun, then you shouldn't get a gun. But if you are home alone a lot, then get a stun gun, pepper spray or whatever makes you feel comfortable.

    Also, go take a self defense class for women. You'd be surprised how much damage you can do with your keys or the e of a high heel shoe into someone's eye.

    Hopefully they catch the intruder and you feel safer. It's not likely that something will ever happen to you like this again. One person who might be able to help you on the board regarding your feelings is phyzik. He shot and killed intruder(s) in his home. There's info about it in this thread http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ghlight=killed but maybe you could PM him. I don't think anyone can relate to you who hasn't gone thru a similar experience.

    I don't know what else to say but a self defense class and maybe a counselor to talk to regarding your fears might help.

    If all else fails, pack your bags and come live in our spare bedroom

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    I never thought of the self-defense course, Kori. Great idea! I am definitely planning on getting pepper spray and I will look into a stun gun. Those don't scare me like a real gun would.

    And actually, in my panic when he threw his body against my bedroom door, I did look around for something to hurt him with and thought about my high heels, then remembered that I had a metal nail file in a drawer by my bed. I was hunched on the floor and about to open the drawer when he banged on it and when I screamed he left, which was good cus I was shaking so bad I am not sure if I could have found that file, much less grip it. In fact when I was dialing 911 I was shaking so bad I wasn't sure if I would get the numbers right. The dialpad on a cell phone gets AWFULLY small at a time like that.

    I will keep the spare bedroom in mind. Be warned, I snore! Though I am told its only bad when I have been drinking.

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    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
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    The police department can probably direct you to a self-defense course specifically for women who have been in similar (or worse) cir stances.

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    I agree that if you aren't comfortable with a gun then it probably isn't the best option. I do however think you could get comfortable with one if you took some classes with one.

    I say all that and I don't even own a gun at this time.

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    Actually when I lived in Virginia, it was in a pretty ghetto area and my brother was concerned for me so he gave me a gun. That is why I was at the range with him a few times, practicing. I even learned how to clean it. But I realized that I just wasnt comfortable with it, I hated having it and I would walk into my room and climb into bed and I would always think- there is a gun in my nightstand. It was in the bottom drawer and I kept my uhhh.. condoms in the top drawer. I remember my bf at the time opened the second one on accident once and kinda lost the mood once

    I then switched roommates so I could live in a house, and my roommate had p/t custody of her three girls, so I got rid of it. No way I could have one in the house w/ kids and I just hated the damn thing anyways. I really thought today would change my mind, but so far I really don't think it has.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Your boyfriend at the tmie went soft at the sight of a gun? Man, even THEN you were the man in the relationship.

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    Masochist Rangers Fan Melmart1's Avatar
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    , Manny.





























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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    The mailman rang the doorbell cus I had a package and I nearly hit the ing roof. grrrrr. Gonna take some time I guess.

    Good news is I won a prize in some pepsi sweepstakes and I got a whole load of free stuff. Some xbox crap that I will give to my brother the video game junky and an itunes certificate, a free 12pack, a little disposable camera, an autographed pic of some nascar dude and other crap I havent looked through yet. Things are looking up, I got an xbox backpack, y'all!
    Well now you finally got some stuff worth stealing.

    Sorry about your day. This would never have happened if you stayed up in NJ with your sugar daddy.

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    God Talks To Me. angel_luv's Avatar
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    I'm glad you're okay Mel. I am so sorry about what happened.

    You are very brave to still be staying there. I don't know if I could have so quickly.

    If there is anything you need, please don't hesitate to ask.

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    Mel,

    If you have reservation about guns don't get one.

    Getting used to a gun on a shooting range and using it in a stressful situation (big understatement when you think your life is in danger) is a HUGE difference. It takes confidence, cold blood and total commitment, so if you have reservations about it to start with, it's going to be difficult to use it effectively - or, God forbid, not to hurt yourselves and/or other household members.
    Stun gun (and there are some pretty powerful models out there) can be more efficient, because use non-lethal force is easier to accept by the human mind. I would also suggest that you train with whatever protection device you decide to go with. Kori's advice about self defense classes is a very good one. Even if you never use any of the moves you'll learn it will help you to get in the right frame of mind and help you to be less emotional if you are ever in a similar situation.

    If all else fails, pack your bags and come live in our spare bedroom
    Hey!!!!!


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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    Holy ! That's just nuts. Good to hear that you're okay. The guy must have been strung out - most burglars don't want anyone home if all they want is to steal stuff.

    In terms of feeling safe, do you have perimeter lights around the house? I'm thinking of getting ones for the back that come on if someone comes within a few feet of the house. I also keep s casings in a few of the windows. I don't have a gun, but the casings may give them the impression that I do and may make them think twice.

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