Elson HAS to start

[Tom_Foolery]

Elson and Oberto average about the SAME minutes (19.6 and 19.0) that's how it will probably always be whoever starts. Because both of them have deficiencies in their game. Neither one of them is good enough to be a 30 mpg center.

I completely agree!

[Tom_Foolery]

This thread is nearing classic status.

CD: Oberto knows the Spurs' system better, and since Elson is not playing leaps and bounds better than him, it makes sense that Oberto keeps starting.

TF: YOU'RE RACIST!!

It has been a while since the forum has featured this kind of self-inflicted ass-hattery.

I really don't know how to respond to this kind of comment except you've completely missed the boat. Must be "drinking" again, huh?(ha!)

[Tom_Foolery]

The racial stuff is moronic. The Spurs are nothing if not a merit based organization and that is usually reflected in the fans' at udes as well.

So, you think it's impossible to think there are racist Spurs fans in Texas?(hahaha!)

Um...okay.

[Tom_Foolery]

Come to think of it...Oberto can't be white either since he speaks Spanish...while Elson speaks both English and Dutch so he's got to be at least 2/3rds white...

Which means that Pop is guilty of reverse discrimination by starting non-white Oberto over 2/3 white Elson.


Hmmm...there just might be some racism at play here...I first noticed it when Pop benched Rasho in favor of Nazr.

LOL! This comment is wrong on all levels.

First, we weren't talking about Pop. We were talking about Chump's refusal to believe that "a black person can know the system just as good as a white person and start at center ahead of a white person".(referring to Rasoh/Nazr)

But that was funny, nice one!

[ChumpDumper]

[QUOTE=Tom_Foolery]Well, that's the impression I get.[quote]Well, you're wrong. That's the impression everyone on this board got.

As far as Nazr, well he was in the dog house and it was common knowledge that he was going to command much more than the Spurs were willing to offer.

I don't think it was common knowledge at all that the Spurs wouldn't entertain a midlevel offer for Nazr once Rasho was gone. The fact is Nazr never allowed for any negotiation at all.

[Tom_Foolery]

I don't think it was common knowledge at all that the Spurs wouldn't entertain a midlevel offer for Nazr once Rasho was gone. The fact is Nazr never allowed for any negotiation at all.

Nazr "never allowed"?

What do you mean by this?(explain)

[coopdogg3]

And just when I thought Tom Foolery couldn't get any dumber, he releases a string of e-mails. Well done Tom. Way to exceed expectations there.

[coopdogg3]

And just when I thought Tom Foolery couldn't get any dumber, he releases another string of posts. Well done Tom. Way to exceed expectations there.

[Tom_Foolery]

And just when I thought Tom Foolery couldn't get any dumber, he releases a string of e-mails. Well done Tom. Way to exceed expectations there.

I don't know where you got your information from, but I haven't emailed anybody here.

[ChumpDumper]

Nazr "never allowed"?

What do you mean by this?(explain)

He signed with Detroit without contacting the Spurs at all.

[Dingle Barry]

the circular logic re: racists in texas is amusing

[Extra Stout]

TF, your logic is flawless.

Texas has racists.

A lot of Spurs fans are in Texas.

Therefore, a lot of Spurs fans are racists.

I am so glad we have your enlightened sensibilities to guide us. Unlike us racist Spurs fans in lily-white hillbilly San Antonio, you don't deal in generalities or stereotypes, and all your assertions are well-informed.

[Solid D]

Meanwhile, back to the topic that "Elson HAS to start". It seems to be an unfinished sentence to me. He has to start what? Well, he needs to start:
*playing tougher on defense.
*learning and executing his defensive assignments.
*looking for passes at any time.

Pop was interviewed last night about Timmy's excellent play. Pop commented on how healthy Tim is and that he is in the best shape he's been in for at least 3 or 4 years. He added that Tim is really energized by Fab. He said that Fab is such a smart player and he really works well with Timmy.

[danyel]

I can't believe this thread went 4 pages.

Seriously, is there even a point comparing guys who play almost the same amount of minutes and produce the same amount of rebounds, points and assists?

Statiscally there is nothing you can prove, numbers are too close. Elson might be better but he hasn't out perfomed Oberto so far.

If you like Elson better thats fine, but he hasn't proved to be the better player so far, maybe Pops just goes with seniority on the team in order to chose the starting player.

[Mavs<Spurs]

TF, your logic is flawless.



I am so glad we have your enlightened sensibilities to guide us. Unlike us racist Spurs fans in lily-white hillbilly San Antonio, you don't deal in generalities or stereotypes, and all your assertions are well-informed.

Texas has racists.

A lot of Spurs fans are in Texas.

Therefore, a lot of Spurs fans are racists.

The argument above doesn't follow logically. The conclusion does not follow logically from the premises. The argument is not valid.

Texas has racoons.

A lot of Spurs fans are in Texas.

Therefore, a lot of Spurs fans are racoons. ????

Oops.

I hope that you are joking.

[Extra Stout]

I hope that you are joking.

You are racist AND anti-racoon. TF and I pass judgment on you.

P.S. Is it really just a coincidence that you started talking about "coons?" Uh-huh. Just go ahead and fit yourself for the white sheet.

[Mavs<Spurs]

You are racist AND anti-racoon. TF and I pass judgment on you.

P.S. Is it really just a coincidence that you started talking about "coons?" Uh-huh. Just go ahead and fit yourself for the white sheet.

That's not good.

[Extra Stout]

He added that Tim is really energized by Fab. He said that Fab is such a smart player and he really works well with Timmy.

Not saying that Tim Duncan is racist or prejudiced or anything, but he doesn't even seem willing to give Elson a chance.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Meanwhile, back to the topic that "Elson HAS to start". It seems to be an unfinished sentence to me. He has to start what? Well, he needs to start:
*playing tougher on defense.
*learning and executing his defensive assignments.
*looking for passes at any time.

Pop was interviewed last night about Timmy's excellent play. Pop commented on how healthy Tim is and that he is in the best shape he's been in for at least 3 or 4 years. He added that Tim is really energized by Fab. He said that Fab is such a smart player and he really works well with Timmy.

Solid D, I agree. I hope that I overreacted to last night and that he shows good hands. Because if he has that and does the other things you mentioned (play tougher on defense and looking for passes at any time), then he will be a huge addition to the Spurs.

[ChumpDumper]

Mavs<Spurs is spending too much time in school.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Not saying that Tim Duncan is racist or prejudiced or anything, but he doesn't even seem willing to give Elson a chance.

You have a funny sense of humor.

But be careful, not everybody knows that you are just kidding and some people may get easily offended.

[Extra Stout]

You have a funny sense of humor.

But be careful, not everybody knows that you are just kidding and some people may get easily offended.

Half the fun of being sarcastic on an Internet forum is when people don't get it and you can string them along.