Elson=faster Nazr Mohammed

[MannyIsGod]

WOW.

.9 Blocks per game his first half season with the Knicks! Then 1.1 including his stint with the Spurs (and next to Duncan). INCREDIBLE.

Of course, .6 the next year with the Spurs looks AWESOME.

He's not better than Elson as a shotblocker. Nazr himself said he would never be a shot blocker in one of his first news articles as a Spur.

Man, you're a complete moron when it comes to the Spurs. Are you ever right about anything?

[Mavs<Spurs]

I don't give a if Horry > Nazr. Just admit Nazr stepped up during a crucial game of the Spurs run.



Points are points. I don't give a where they come from. Horry was brought in to hit 3 pointers. Nazr was brought in to give an inside presence opposite Duncan. Both were adequate enough to get the job done during crucial moments/games and don't deserve to be short-changed.

at times, some might possibly consider Nazr adequate.

However, on Nazr's best day, he is still < Robert Horry.

[Mavs<Spurs]

WOW.

.9 Blocks per game his first half season with the Knicks! Then 1.1 including his stint with the Spurs (and next to Duncan). INCREDIBLE.

Of course, .6 the next year with the Spurs looks AWESOME.

He's not better than Elson as a shotblocker. Nazr himself said he would never be a shot blocker in one of his first news articles as a Spur.

Man, you're a complete moron when it comes to the Spurs. Are you ever right about anything?

His record is what it is.

[itzsoweezee]

I hope that you are right.

I didn't watch the game, but Bill Schoening is pretty fair and he seems to call it like it is. He indicated that was a serious problem.


Prior to this game, I would have said that he has better hands than Nazr, but who doesn't. Nevertheless, it didn't look like a serious problem, just something that happened every once in a while (where he didn't catch the ball when he should have). Last game, it became a pronounced problem and area of concern.

god you're a ing idiot. you didn't even watch the game, prior to the game you would've said that elson has better hands than nazr, but b/c bill schoening said something about elson's hands, you have to proclaim how terrible elson's hands are in numerous posts?

[Mr. Body]

WOW.

.9 Blocks per game his first half season with the Knicks! Then 1.1 including his stint with the Spurs (and next to Duncan). INCREDIBLE.

Of course, .6 the next year with the Spurs looks AWESOME.

He's not better than Elson as a shotblocker. Nazr himself said he would never be a shot blocker in one of his first news articles as a Spur.

Man, you're a complete moron when it comes to the Spurs. Are you ever right about anything?

One thing I'm right about: Nazr Mohammed is a better shotblocker than Francisco Elson.

[Mavs<Spurs]

[QUOTE=itzsoweezee]god you're a ing idiot.

[wildbill2u]

Nazr and Rasho both earned their rings. Let's respect what they did.

Elson and Oberto may both earn rings here playing in tandem. Let's give them a chance to see what they can do over a season in the Spurs system.

If we win a championship everyone right down to the last man at the end of the bench will have done his part

[Mavs<Spurs]

"god you're a ing idiot."http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1469

itzsoweezee. Elson=faster Nazr Mohammed. Retrieved from
"http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1469
on November 22, 2006.

attribution not quite APA.
I am certainly not wanting to plagiarize this.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Nazr and Rasho both earned their rings. Let's respect what they did.

Elson and Oberto may both earn rings here playing in tandem. Let's give them a chance to see what they can do over a season in the Spurs system.

If we win a championship everyone right down to the last man at the end of the bench will have done his part

I can agree with that.

That's fair.

[Dre_7]

Either he did or he did not drop or mishandle about four passes last game.
If he didn't, then Bill Schoening is highly inaccurate. This is incongruent with my past experience. I have found him to be very accurate and fair. So, I don't find this conclusion likely.

Then, he did drop or mishandle about four passes that he should have caught. This is early in the season. Normally, catching is a skill that people have every day. Anybody can drop two passes on a bad day because of lack of concentration or whatever. But four passes seems like a lot to drop. Were they all anomalies? That many anomalies seems like a lot to me.

I couldn't watch the game because I don't have league pass and in this area, that seemed to be the only way to watch the game.

Truth is that we all say stuff that turns out to be wrong or does not make much sense. I have done it before. So, have most people. Doesn't make me or most people idiots. There is a difference in saying that what somebody has said doesn't make sense or you think that what they are saying is dumb and calling them an idiot.

Since I am such an idiot and you are so much smarter than I am, would you mind if I discussed with you the proof of the following theorem: if y is a connected subspace of a top space X, then the closure of y is connected.

I am leaning toward using the contrapositive on this one. What do you think?

So if Duncan has one bad shooting night and Bill Schoening said that Duncan missed several shots, that makes him a poor shooter?? JW

[Mavs<Spurs]

So if Duncan has one bad shooting night and Bill Schoening said that Duncan missed several shots, that makes him a poor shooter?? JW

No, but don't you think that shooting is different than catching, Dre7?

You're a reasonable person.

See what I am saying?

[Dre_7]

No, but don't you think that shooting is different than catching, Dre7?

You're a reasonable person.

See what I am saying?

Maybe if Elson had dropped passes in several games then I would agree with you. But from all the games I have seen, he does not have bad hands. Everyone has a few poor games when playin an 82 game season. One bad game does not equal "poor hands."

[Mavs<Spurs]

Maybe if Elson had dropped passes in several games then I would agree with you. But from all the games I have seen, he does not have bad hands. Everyone has a few poor games when playin an 82 game season. One bad game does not equal "poor hands."

Maybe you are right.

It is true that I don't have a lot of context for this. I didn't see him play much for Denver.

If I had seen play a lot (for example in Denver) and didn't see this happen much, then I would have a broader context and that would make it easier for me to interpret differently.

[spurs_in_7]

Last game made it appear that Elson is simply a faster version of Nazr Mohammed. Someone needs to pour some glue on his hands.

exactly what i think but, with less offensive talent and a little worser defender.

[cherylsteele]

But my one major complaint remains: he still can't catch the basketball and it is hard to be a great player if you can't at least catch the ball.


Is it a lack of hand eye coordination? Why exactly is it that it is so hard for bigs to catch the basketball?

A couple of those passes never should have been mad in the first place.
I remember one at his ankles.....you are going to blame that on Elston?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Actually, Elson has good hands, just a case of a player having a bad game (actually a bad stretch of 3 or 4 possessions) and the board over-reacting to it.

Yeah, he misses the ball once in a regular season game? Big deal...

I remember Nazr doing it in The FINALS! against the Pistons, in like one of the last games, and he dropped it and had to scurry, and try to pick it up. It WAS EMBARASSSING!!!

That was a lot worse than whatever Elson did, and telling of that deficiency of Nazrs. This thread is a waste.

[Dre_7]

A couple of those passes never should have been mad in the first place.
I remember one at his ankles.....you are going to blame that on Elston?

Whos Elston?? JP

[cherylsteele]

Whos Elston?? JP

Sorry.....I added a "t"....wasn't paying attention.

[Mr. Body]

This might have been the worst thread of all time.

[Zunni]

you forgot Elson doesn't do 20 pumpfakes and then still have his shot blocked

...by a 6'3" guard, from behind.