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    Last game made it appear that Elson is simply a faster version of Nazr Mohammed. Someone needs to pour some glue on his hands.

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    faster, better shooting, better defensively rotating, shotblocking nazr mohammed

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    Can't score if you can't catch the ball.

    If they only had the hands of Tim Duncan.

    But then they would still lack the talent of Tim Duncan.


    Looks like we might have jumped the gun on Elson and Oberto. Oberto looks better than Elson. Another center who can't catch the ball. And I guess every big in the league looks like an all star when they play against the Suns.


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    faster, better shooting, better defensively rotating, shotblocking nazr mohammed
    Have to catch the ball before you can shoot it (usually).

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    faster, better shooting, better defensively rotating, shotblocking nazr mohammed
    He certainly isn't going to challenge Ben Wallace for defensive player of the year honors.

    But you are right, he is a much better defender than Nazr Mohammed and a legitimate shotblocking threat. Even Nazr himself admitted he was not a good shot blocker.


    I am just frustrated that the man can't catch the basketball.

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    better shooting, not laying up. Nazr couldnt hit a free throw line jumper for his life. Ive seen Elson hit several.

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    He certainly isn't going to challenge Ben Wallace for defensive player of the year honors.

    But you are right, he is a much better defender than Ben Wallace and a legitimate shotblocking threat. Even Nazr himself admitted he was not a good shot blocker.


    I am just frustrated that the man can't catch the basketball.
    And we have some great passers. Look at our assist to field goal ratio. Barry, Manu, Tony, Oberto and Beno can all pass the ball (not all of them do it as well or as often unfortunately).

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    better shooting, not laying up. Nazr couldnt hit a free throw line jumper for his life. Ive seen Elson hit several.
    True.

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    does that also mean he turns the ball over faster?

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    He certainly isn't going to challenge Ben Wallace for defensive player of the year honors.

    But you are right, he is a much better defender than Nazr Mohammed and a legitimate shotblocking threat. Even Nazr himself admitted he was not a good shot blocker.


    I am just frustrated that the man can't catch the basketball.
    Nazr Mohammed is a much better shotblocker than Francisco Elson.

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    better shooting, not laying up. Nazr couldnt hit a free throw line jumper for his life. Ive seen Elson hit several.

    The other thing is that when he does actually catch the ball, he goes up with authority and throws it down, none of this weak layup stuff like Nazr.

    I don't mind the techs. At least, he plays with some passion and emotion. We need that on this team. He goes up like he means it.

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    Nazr Mohammed is a much better shotblocker than Francisco Elson.

    ????????????????


    You must be joking.


    Mr. Body made a funny, I think.

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    does that also mean he turns the ball over faster?




    Yes, I suppose it does. Good point.

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    All I remember Nazr doing was fouling.

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    I will predict that this passion will come out and help in a big game.

    He will get the team fired up by a great dunk with authority, slap the backboard on the way down and get a tech. The rest of the team will get on board and follow suit and we will win a game from behind against a good team.

    Remember, you heard it here first folks.

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    All I remember Nazr doing was fouling.

    And I hate to say it, but they were not even good fouls. They were cheap fouls where we didn't get our money's worth, the kind that lead to three point plays.

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    No. Nazr Mohammed is a better shotblocker than Francisco Elson. Always has been.

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    you forgot Elson doesn't do 20 pumpfakes and then still have his shot blocked

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    But my one major complaint remains: he still can't catch the basketball and it is hard to be a great player if you can't at least catch the ball.


    Is it a lack of hand eye coordination? Why exactly is it that it is so hard for bigs to catch the basketball?

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    you forgot Elson doesn't do 20 pumpfakes and then still have his shot blocked

    That always killed me.

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    No. Nazr Mohammed is a better shotblocker than Francisco Elson. Always has been.



    Nazr Mohammed, the great shot blocker. That's a good one.


    I don't feel that stats ar helpful in this comparison because Elson didn't play that much and he played for George Karl. Nazr was always out of position.
    His rotations were not good. That was very apparent.

    Elson appears to have the smarts to pick up where he should rotate to.
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    And a better catcher and is on better positions then Mohamed was.
    Add the bball IQ and for now Elson was a good choice.

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    Actually, Elson has good hands, just a case of a player having a bad game (actually a bad stretch of 3 or 4 possessions) and the board over-reacting to it.

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    Actually, Elson has good hands, just a case of a player having a bad game (actually a bad stretch of 3 or 4 possessions) and the board over-reacting to it.

    I hope that you are right.

    I didn't watch the game, but Bill Schoening is pretty fair and he seems to call it like it is. He indicated that was a serious problem.


    Prior to this game, I would have said that he has better hands than Nazr, but who doesn't. Nevertheless, it didn't look like a serious problem, just something that happened every once in a while (where he didn't catch the ball when he should have). Last game, it became a pronounced problem and area of concern.

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    Actually, Elson has good hands, just a case of a player having a bad game (actually a bad stretch of 3 or 4 possessions) and the board over-reacting to it.
    In this case, then I must be the board because I am the only person who might be guilty of over reacting to it. And it certainly is possible. I'm not the pope or infallible or anything.

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