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Yes, because you know for sure which came first huh?
Little flaw in your argument. For monothiests, nothing existed before God. You know, In the beginning...Alpha and Omega...and all that. So, while you can argue that monotheism came after a recognition of morality, we'll just argue that God and His laws existed before and were a precursor to all.
Yes, because you know for sure which came first huh?
Little flaw in your reading comprehension. I was referring to monotheism in a historical context, not your belief system.
Yes, people lived, prayed, worshiped, moralized, and made laws based on morals for thousands of years prior to the onset of Judasim, and later Christianity and Islam. People Like Plato and Aristotle even pondered the nature of morality.Yes, because you know for sure which came first huh?
Barak is still owning you subject changers.
Better swift boat him ASAP. Make up if you have to.
UGh, Abraham was before Plato.
As was Noah.
Changing the terms of the discussion seems to be par for the course for you guys, but I'll try again. Monotheism, in relation to it's particular influence on morality in human societies, didn't begin until Moses came down Mt. Sinai with two stone tablets spelling out God's exclusivity. The Hebrew tribes (descended from Abraham) prior to this event saw "the God of Abraham" as their God, but also acknowledged other gods (hence the regrettable "golden calf affair" just prior to Moses's return).
Abraham was a man from Ur, in Mesopotamia, which leads too...
...a Mesopotamiam myth, found in the myth of Ziusudra and the Atrahasis Epic (both from the 17th century B.C.) as well as the Epic of Gilgamesh (7th century B.C.), that was adopted and changed by expatriate Jews of the Babylonian exile (539 B.C.).
I know, I know..here I'll save you a post:
Okay,
Plato begat Moses.
Actually, Amram and Jochebed begat Moses. (it's in the Bible, dont-cha-know)
Plato was a philosopher from Athens, Greece; a polytheistic civilization.
Moses was a Hebrew from Egypt, which was also polytheistic, but not far removed from a brief experiment with monotheism during the reign of Akhenaten. (Akhenaten begat Moses?)
The two had nothing to do with each other. Human history does not run in a single line.
I guess one took my words to literally.
I said Plato was after Moses.
thank you. I do very well with the ladies you joto.
Yes, Moses lived before Plato.
No, Plato was not a monotheist (although he wasn't all that concerned about the Greek Pantheon either).
There is no religious or philosphical legacy between the two.
Wait, I'm confused now (mainly because I didn't go back and read everything) but Pixel, are you saying that morals came before religion?
The discussion went off on a tangent for a while.
Morality came before Monotheism? Yes. (fact)
Morality came before religion? It depends on how you define religion, as it often conflated with spirituality, but...yes. (my opinion)
I disagree and think that morals came after (or along with) some sense of spirituality..........however, I see your point as well.
Dude is on fire. I really dig his at ude. No truer words have been spoken, btw...
"This is an office you can't run for just on the basis of ambition," Obama said.
Anybody catch him on Monday Night Football? Pretty funny.
Yes , He's very articulate .
He is dead in the Water.
Obama tells the Sun-Times that his family worries about safety as surging popularity and presidential aspirations create the threat of violence.
December 15, 2006
BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist
Sen. Barack Obama is concerned about his personal security --telling the Chicago Sun-Times editorial board Thursday that he and his wife fear there is a potential for violence -- even if he does not run for president.
"Being shot, obviously, that is the least-attractive option,'' Obama said.
The Illinois Democrat told the Sun-Times he has concluded a 2008 White House bid "would be viable" and he would have "a pretty good chance of winning the nomination.''
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/1...weet15.article
From the same article:"Obama, asked what he might do with the abundance of political capital he has, said that in the long term, he wanted to "set the stage" to "move aggressively to universal health care," though not modeled on the Canadian system."
I wonder who is going to pay for this?
You don't think the AMA and the Drug Companies are suddenly going
to do things for free do you?
Didn't Hillary and that guy Bill start of with this idea/ Whatever happened
to it?, after all they had 8 years.
You are paying for it already.I wonder who is going to pay for this?
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